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Are you against products in general, or just when it comes to treating software as a product? I think that is a question you should answer first. Furthermore,

Are you against products in general, or just when it comes to treating software as a product? I think that is a question you should answer first. Furthermore, if software is not allowed to be a product, can you sell a service based on software as a product? If no, services as Netflix cease to exist. If yes, where is the boundary between the software and the service? Finally, who are you to tell people what they can and cannot sell as a product? Sounds like the worst kind of regulation to me!

Zambyte 3y ago
> Are you against products in general [...] No. > Furthermore, if software is not allowed to be a product, can you sell a service based on software as a product? Yes. > If yes, where is the boundary between the software and the service? At... the boundary...? I think it's pretty clear that services and software are different things. You even called them different things. If I write software for you, that act is a service. What is produced is software. The former should be monetized rather than the latter. If I let you use my computer (ie for storage), that is a service. The software for accessing my computer is software. The former should be monetized rather than the latter (which is true in the case of Netflix). > Finally, who are you to tell people what they can and cannot sell as a product? Nobody. Just spitting my opinion into the void.
- auggierose 3y ago
  So the Netflix use case is alright with you? Ok, then I will provide you just with services from now on. Internally, I might use software to be able to provide you with that service, but as I provide you just with a service, that doesn't seem to matter to you. Yes, instead of a software product, I am selling you a SaaS, and apparently you are fine with that.
  - Zambyte 3y ago
    > So the Netflix use case is alright with you? As far as how they monetize their service, yes. I think it is a shame that their client is malware, and that it's not possible to use the service without their malware client. That is a separate issue though.

Zambyte 3y ago

> Are you against products in general [...] No. > Furthermore, if software is not allowed to be a product, can you sell a service based on software as a product? Yes. > If yes, where is the boundary between the software and the service? At... the boundary...? I think it's pretty clear that services and software are different things. You even called them different things. If I write software for you, that act is a service. What is produced is software. The former should be monetized rather than the latter. If I let you use my computer (ie for storage), that is a service. The software for accessing my computer is software. The former should be monetized rather than the latter (which is true in the case of Netflix). > Finally, who are you to tell people what they can and cannot sell as a product? Nobody. Just spitting my opinion into the void.

auggierose 3y ago
So the Netflix use case is alright with you? Ok, then I will provide you just with services from now on. Internally, I might use software to be able to provide you with that service, but as I provide you just with a service, that doesn't seem to matter to you. Yes, instead of a software product, I am selling you a SaaS, and apparently you are fine with that.
- Zambyte 3y ago
  > So the Netflix use case is alright with you? As far as how they monetize their service, yes. I think it is a shame that their client is malware, and that it's not possible to use the service without their malware client. That is a separate issue though.