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Same conclusions. And children, dogs, birds, metal plaques... So many things out of your control, so just assume the worst, all the time if you want to surviv

Same conclusions. And children, dogs, birds, metal plaques... So many things out of your control, so just assume the worst, all the time if you want to survive. Motorbikes are just dangerous, that's it. Another thing I'd add: say no to ridding under the rain. Don't buy a better suit, better tires, adapt your schedule and run slowly. Just don't use it. There is nothing in the world you can do that will make it much safer. It's a death trap. Bite the bullet, and use something else. But who am I kidding, young me would have read that comment, say "mehhh", and just ride the storm anyway :)

FoomFries 3y ago
The friction coefficients in rain aren’t bad if you’re riding at posted speeds, outside of solid metal and painted lines. It’s riding right after it starts raining that you want to avoid - all of the oils which drip from vehicles get displaced by the initial deluge, and that is slippery stuff.
- BiteCode_dev 3y ago
  First, that's a lot of if, second, that's not nearly all the if, and finally, there are a lot of if about things that are not you.
stef25 3y ago
Wind can also be a nightmare. When riding on a highway in Spain, south of Barcelona I was sure I was going to die cause the wind just blew me all over the place.
xtiansimon 3y ago
> “…say no to ridding under the rain.” I use my moto for Moto camping upstate New York. I plan my trips to avoid storms, but they happen never the less. And I love my super banana suit. It keeps me comfortable while I’m trying to hold my $#!t together out on the highway. I grew up in CA and every year people go nuts with the first rains. Lots of accidents. Same happens here—especially the spring and early summer rains. People lose their minds and forget how to drive. Slow down. Increase following distance. And if you’re on a moto, watch for manhole covers, leaves, road markings which can be slick. And not running your tires to slick helps, too.
Tade0 3y ago
> Motorbikes are just dangerous, that's it. I would extend that to anything with two wheels at a speed of 30km/h+. A while ago I restored my bicycle after years of it gathering dust in the cellar and now that I'm older and more aware of risks I see how much I have to think ahead to not run over anyone. At certain, low from a car driver's standpoint, speeds a bicycle will just go straight unless of course you decide to slide.
- BiteCode_dev 3y ago
  Indeed, but strangely 2 wheels is the sweet spot for fun as well. Such a hard choice.
doctor_eval 3y ago
I was riding a rented bike through the Coromandel outside Auckland one day on holidays many years ago, with my girlfriend on the back. Loads of nice wide curves and mountain climbs. I’m not a particularly aggressive driver but the road was clear and I was certainly fanging it from time to time. Towards the end of the trip, the roads were mostly downhill. It’s easy to go too fast for the corners, so I back off a bit, but am still having fun. We passed a sign saying “caution, winding road”. Great! Then a minute or so later, we passed a sign saying “warning: falling rocks”. Ok. Another minute and we passed a sign saying “slippery when wet”. Well it’s not raining so I’m good. Then less than a minute later it started raining, seemingly out of nowhere. I sat up straight in my seat, dialled the throttle back and decided the rest of the ride would be entirely defensive. $DIETY had given me enough warnings for one day.
sparks1970 3y ago
My Grandfather lost a leg to a motorcycle accident in 1944/1945. He was riding the while line past a military convoy in the UK as a dispatch rider when unfortunately he met someone doing the same in the opposite direction. He had a succession of prosthetic legs, the technology was always improving but one thing he said never changed: The clinics were always full of lads in their late teens. Year after year.

FoomFries 3y ago

The friction coefficients in rain aren’t bad if you’re riding at posted speeds, outside of solid metal and painted lines. It’s riding right after it starts raining that you want to avoid - all of the oils which drip from vehicles get displaced by the initial deluge, and that is slippery stuff.

BiteCode_dev 3y ago
First, that's a lot of if, second, that's not nearly all the if, and finally, there are a lot of if about things that are not you.

stef25 3y ago

Wind can also be a nightmare. When riding on a highway in Spain, south of Barcelona I was sure I was going to die cause the wind just blew me all over the place.

xtiansimon 3y ago

> “…say no to ridding under the rain.” I use my moto for Moto camping upstate New York. I plan my trips to avoid storms, but they happen never the less. And I love my super banana suit. It keeps me comfortable while I’m trying to hold my $#!t together out on the highway. I grew up in CA and every year people go nuts with the first rains. Lots of accidents. Same happens here—especially the spring and early summer rains. People lose their minds and forget how to drive. Slow down. Increase following distance. And if you’re on a moto, watch for manhole covers, leaves, road markings which can be slick. And not running your tires to slick helps, too.

Tade0 3y ago

> Motorbikes are just dangerous, that's it. I would extend that to anything with two wheels at a speed of 30km/h+. A while ago I restored my bicycle after years of it gathering dust in the cellar and now that I'm older and more aware of risks I see how much I have to think ahead to not run over anyone. At certain, low from a car driver's standpoint, speeds a bicycle will just go straight unless of course you decide to slide.

BiteCode_dev 3y ago
Indeed, but strangely 2 wheels is the sweet spot for fun as well. Such a hard choice.

doctor_eval 3y ago

I was riding a rented bike through the Coromandel outside Auckland one day on holidays many years ago, with my girlfriend on the back. Loads of nice wide curves and mountain climbs. I’m not a particularly aggressive driver but the road was clear and I was certainly fanging it from time to time. Towards the end of the trip, the roads were mostly downhill. It’s easy to go too fast for the corners, so I back off a bit, but am still having fun. We passed a sign saying “caution, winding road”. Great! Then a minute or so later, we passed a sign saying “warning: falling rocks”. Ok. Another minute and we passed a sign saying “slippery when wet”. Well it’s not raining so I’m good. Then less than a minute later it started raining, seemingly out of nowhere. I sat up straight in my seat, dialled the throttle back and decided the rest of the ride would be entirely defensive. $DIETY had given me enough warnings for one day.

sparks1970 3y ago

My Grandfather lost a leg to a motorcycle accident in 1944/1945. He was riding the while line past a military convoy in the UK as a dispatch rider when unfortunately he met someone doing the same in the opposite direction. He had a succession of prosthetic legs, the technology was always improving but one thing he said never changed: The clinics were always full of lads in their late teens. Year after year.