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This video is great. Almost all my potential accidents that ended in a deep sight were in really familiar places. I have a side job delivering pizzas on a moto

by taopai 3y ago

This video is great. Almost all my potential accidents that ended in a deep sight were in really familiar places. I have a side job delivering pizzas on a motorcycle. Recently I had an accident by myself, I slipped out of the road but not too fast, around 75kmh (50 mph). The falling was terrifying but I had luck to not have any really severe injury. This experience made me reflect on all the crazy things I did with the bike where I could easily had died. So I feel lucky. I'll try to go slower and be extra vigilant. What really terrifies me are people who don't know how to drive (I live in a touristic area) and you spot them immediately. Also phones, keep them down or hold them on a mount but don't hold them with your hands!

albert_e 3y ago
> but don't hold them with your hands! I invite you to Indian cities of today. A large fraction of riders is on a conversation on mobile phone -- either held up to ear by one hand or with the mobile pinched between ear and shoulder. How they manage to get home alive every day - I don't know.
- ilyt 3y ago
  The answer is they don't https://www.bikesrepublic.com/featured/10-countries-with-the-highest-proportion-motorcycle-related-deaths/ https://www.bikesrepublic.com/featured/10-countries-with-the... near 100k fatalities per year. Granted it is well populated country but still.
  - abdullahkhalids 3y ago
    There are 21E7 motorbikes in India [1], so at 100k deaths/year, that is 4.8E-4 deaths/motorbike. The US has 8.6 million motorbikes [2] deaths and 5172 deaths [3]. That is 6E-4 deaths/motorbike. Now, the better metric would be deaths/kms. But at least on the above metric, India is doing fine. [1] https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/news/india-has-over-21-crore-two-wheelers-nearly-7-crore-four-wheelers-registered-41659615998470.html https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/news/india-has-over-21-... [2] https://www.iihs.org/api/datastoredocument/bibliography/2225 https://www.iihs.org/api/datastoredocument/bibliography/2225 [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_fatality_rate_in_U....
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eggy 3y ago
My phone stays in my pocket. No music. Only GPS via my Sena headset when needed. I cut calls short until I can pullover or arrive to talk. I saw a woman driving with her elbows to put face makeup on as I passed. I revved as I passed her open window. She probably had Pelosi eyebrows after ;) People texting in cars or high as a kite on weed. I drive loud and bright and aggressive. Been riding since 1983. I was a moto messenger in NYC back then. Learning to actually ride and control a moto as opposed to just commuting has given me some really neat skills to avoid the inevitable bad situation by pulling off some maneuvers you only learn by pushing it. Drive a car if you don't want to really ride.
- eggy 3y ago
  I've been riding since I was 18, and I am now almost 60, so I know a bit about reading traffic and being vigilant. It has also made me a better car driver, because the head-on-a-swivel never quits! Complacency is the cause of most accidents. I had over 400 technical dives repairing underwater hydraulics and electronics as well as rope work at height and it is when the 'expert' gets complacent that the accident happens. Now with driving a motorcycle you are the alert one, and there are many passive, complacent drivers.

by taopai 3y ago

albert_e 3y ago

> but don't hold them with your hands! I invite you to Indian cities of today. A large fraction of riders is on a conversation on mobile phone -- either held up to ear by one hand or with the mobile pinched between ear and shoulder. How they manage to get home alive every day - I don't know.

ilyt 3y ago
The answer is they don't https://www.bikesrepublic.com/featured/10-countries-with-the-highest-proportion-motorcycle-related-deaths/ https://www.bikesrepublic.com/featured/10-countries-with-the... near 100k fatalities per year. Granted it is well populated country but still.
- abdullahkhalids 3y ago
  There are 21E7 motorbikes in India [1], so at 100k deaths/year, that is 4.8E-4 deaths/motorbike. The US has 8.6 million motorbikes [2] deaths and 5172 deaths [3]. That is 6E-4 deaths/motorbike. Now, the better metric would be deaths/kms. But at least on the above metric, India is doing fine. [1] https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/news/india-has-over-21-crore-two-wheelers-nearly-7-crore-four-wheelers-registered-41659615998470.html https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/news/india-has-over-21-... [2] https://www.iihs.org/api/datastoredocument/bibliography/2225 https://www.iihs.org/api/datastoredocument/bibliography/2225 [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_fatality_rate_in_U....

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eggy 3y ago

My phone stays in my pocket. No music. Only GPS via my Sena headset when needed. I cut calls short until I can pullover or arrive to talk. I saw a woman driving with her elbows to put face makeup on as I passed. I revved as I passed her open window. She probably had Pelosi eyebrows after ;) People texting in cars or high as a kite on weed. I drive loud and bright and aggressive. Been riding since 1983. I was a moto messenger in NYC back then. Learning to actually ride and control a moto as opposed to just commuting has given me some really neat skills to avoid the inevitable bad situation by pulling off some maneuvers you only learn by pushing it. Drive a car if you don't want to really ride.

eggy 3y ago
I've been riding since I was 18, and I am now almost 60, so I know a bit about reading traffic and being vigilant. It has also made me a better car driver, because the head-on-a-swivel never quits! Complacency is the cause of most accidents. I had over 400 technical dives repairing underwater hydraulics and electronics as well as rope work at height and it is when the 'expert' gets complacent that the accident happens. Now with driving a motorcycle you are the alert one, and there are many passive, complacent drivers.