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Valheim is not an indie game, it is published by coffee stain studios. Now it is a small dev team, and they defiantly take the slow burn approach to development

by somat 3y ago

Valheim is not an indie game, it is published by coffee stain studios. Now it is a small dev team, and they defiantly take the slow burn approach to development. Both common traits to independent developers. And good for coffee stain publishing to let them develop this way. But... I don't think I am being too pedantic in saying indie means independently published, and if you have a company publishing your title... you are not indie.

MattRix 3y ago
Indie is about whether some other company is controlling what you make. This means you can make an indie game even if it is published by another studio (like with Valheim).
m_0x 3y ago
None of coffee stain studios are AAA games. I think there's a blurry line that separates indie games to non-indie games. Sure stardew valley is an indie game and God of War is not. But those are the extremes of the spectrum. Is Hades an indie game? It is developed and published by Supergiant Games, but at this point is really well known and funded.
- somat 3y ago
  I think that definitely language has shifted a bit, and terminology that used to mean "artist that is unable or does not want to get a publishing contract" now means "small limited resource artist". I mean for gods sake there are "indie" publishing companies now. Which I regard as this amazing contradiction in terminology. But yes, my pedantic side insists that if a large well funded game(or movie or song) uses the same legal entity to fund the game as was used to build it. They are independent and may fairly use the term "indie". Steam is a weird kink in the rules, because they are technically publishing all these games. But I hand wave that away by claiming that they are a market not a publisher(the difference being that a publisher takes on risk by paying you before the work is done).

4 ms·

Valheim is not an indie game, it is published by coffee stain studios. Now it is a small dev team, and they defiantly take the slow burn approach to development

by somat 3y ago

MattRix 3y ago
Indie is about whether some other company is controlling what you make. This means you can make an indie game even if it is published by another studio (like with Valheim).
m_0x 3y ago
None of coffee stain studios are AAA games. I think there's a blurry line that separates indie games to non-indie games. Sure stardew valley is an indie game and God of War is not. But those are the extremes of the spectrum. Is Hades an indie game? It is developed and published by Supergiant Games, but at this point is really well known and funded.
- somat 3y ago
  I think that definitely language has shifted a bit, and terminology that used to mean "artist that is unable or does not want to get a publishing contract" now means "small limited resource artist". I mean for gods sake there are "indie" publishing companies now. Which I regard as this amazing contradiction in terminology. But yes, my pedantic side insists that if a large well funded game(or movie or song) uses the same legal entity to fund the game as was used to build it. They are independent and may fairly use the term "indie". Steam is a weird kink in the rules, because they are technically publishing all these games. But I hand wave that away by claiming that they are a market not a publisher(the difference being that a publisher takes on risk by paying you before the work is done).