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What a bunch of baloney. By this rationale electricity is too dangerous, the internet & browsers for that matter as well. Shhhh lest someone compile their own o

What a bunch of baloney. By this rationale electricity is too dangerous, the internet & browsers for that matter as well. Shhhh lest someone compile their own operating system.....

heyitsguay 3y ago
Compared to OpenAI's antics I think this is actually a very reasonable move, and a good example of the less glamorous but more concrete reality of actual AI risk management. There's a concrete harm -- disruptive ease of impersonation over common voice communication channels. Tools for this will diffuse out anyway, because at the heart of the problem is a bad cryptography-style security assumption. We assumed voices were expensive to clone in real time with high fidelity, turns out maybe they aren't. In time, societal expectations will shift, like they did with photographs, but it sounds like Meta is making the responsible choice to not accelerate the cats ahead of the mice.
- wadd1e 3y ago
  I still think it's marketing because if it really is dangerous, why talk about it in the first place? (I don't doubt that it may be 'dangerous' if used for nefarious purposes, but if I have something dangerous, I wouldn't go announcing it to the whole wide world).
  - salad-tycoon 3y ago
    It’s absolutely marketing. “This heroin is too strong, just had 2 clients OD last week, you sure you can handle this?”
    - wadd1e 3y ago
      Just wanted to say that I loved the analogy :)
- villgax 3y ago
  Matter of time & effort since the arch is out but without much details of the layer blocks just number of params, heads etc.
itairall 3y ago
I honestly don't think we would have the internet or electricity if it was a new thing today. It would be impossible to run power lines. We would make some argument that we need to slow down and stick with candles for now. We already have enough to worry about with fires. You want to run high powered electric death lines into people's homes and water? What are you crazy or you just don't understand what happens when water and electricity mix?

What a bunch of baloney. By this rationale electricity is too dangerous, the internet & browsers for that matter as well. Shhhh lest someone compile their own operating system.....

heyitsguay 3y ago

Compared to OpenAI's antics I think this is actually a very reasonable move, and a good example of the less glamorous but more concrete reality of actual AI risk management. There's a concrete harm -- disruptive ease of impersonation over common voice communication channels. Tools for this will diffuse out anyway, because at the heart of the problem is a bad cryptography-style security assumption. We assumed voices were expensive to clone in real time with high fidelity, turns out maybe they aren't. In time, societal expectations will shift, like they did with photographs, but it sounds like Meta is making the responsible choice to not accelerate the cats ahead of the mice.

wadd1e 3y ago
I still think it's marketing because if it really is dangerous, why talk about it in the first place? (I don't doubt that it may be 'dangerous' if used for nefarious purposes, but if I have something dangerous, I wouldn't go announcing it to the whole wide world).
- salad-tycoon 3y ago
  It’s absolutely marketing. “This heroin is too strong, just had 2 clients OD last week, you sure you can handle this?”
  - wadd1e 3y ago
    Just wanted to say that I loved the analogy :)
villgax 3y ago
Matter of time & effort since the arch is out but without much details of the layer blocks just number of params, heads etc.

itairall 3y ago

I honestly don't think we would have the internet or electricity if it was a new thing today. It would be impossible to run power lines. We would make some argument that we need to slow down and stick with candles for now. We already have enough to worry about with fires. You want to run high powered electric death lines into people's homes and water? What are you crazy or you just don't understand what happens when water and electricity mix?