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> Creole has nothing to do with the number of languages. I agree, I was misremembering. After a quick refresher I agree that spanglish fits the Creole definiti
by afiori 3y ago
> Creole has nothing to do with the number of languages.
I agree, I was misremembering. After a quick refresher I agree that spanglish fits the Creole definition much better than I initially considered.
> there are almost 1M Dominicans alone in NYC
Not all 1M people interact with each other, I was talking about the overlapping sets of social circles areound people, not the total count.
- wrp 3y agoI hate to use Wikipedia as an authority but: Spanglish is not a creole or dialect of Spanish because, though people claim they are native Spanglish speakers, Spanglish itself is not a language on its own, but speakers speak English or Spanish with a heavy influence from the other language. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanglish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanglish)
- afiori 3y agoI agree, but here I was talking about the creation of the language, my opinion was that a language started like spanglish could not be a creole.
- wrp 3y agoAs the term "creole" is used in linguistics, it means a language that: a) started as a contact language, and b) has become the mother tongue of a group. So, I think you might be right, because Spanglish originated as a speech among English-Spanish bilinguals rather than as a contact language between English and Spanish communities. If Spanglish became the mother tongue of a group who couldn't speak Spanish or English, then, well...I'm not sure.
- afiori 3y agoI had no intentions to opine on b) but according to alehlopeh a few levels up [0] it might be true [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36383907 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36383907