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So the only ones staying are the power tripping losers? That will bode well for the health of the platform. /s Then again, maybe such platforms were never “he

So the only ones staying are the power tripping losers? That will bode well for the health of the platform. /s Then again, maybe such platforms were never “healthy” to begin with. Instead of healthy open discussion, the karma system creates a scenario no different from the Black Mirror episode “Nosedive”.

Gigachad 3y ago
I’m thinking the actual outcome of this protest is that reddit has to replace all moderators with paid staff. Since free mods are all insane. The altruistic mods left when it became clear they aren’t building a community, they are doing unpaid janny work for a corporation that hates them.
- TMWNN 3y ago
  > I’m thinking the actual outcome of this protest is that reddit has to replace all moderators with paid staff. Since free mods are all insane. Paid staff would indeed be a huge, huge improvement over ideologically driven no-lifes. What tipped me over to Reddit's side regarding the API change is the possibility that it will end the practice of mods sharing automated block lists (if you post in a wrongthink subreddit, many other subreddits will preemptively ban you regardless of your actual activity in them, if any). If so, and if there are fewer handfuls of powermods that control dozens/hundreds/thousands of subreddits, I'm all for the change. This is not to say that I condone what /u/spez did regarding editing /r/The_Donald comments, or misrepresenting what happened on the call with Apollo's owner. Paid staff can and do unduly push their own ideological bents. But when there is a name and a face attached to a company employee, there is some hope of holding people to account. The Challenor mess should never have happened, but at least the person was fired by Reddit. I have never, ever seen any evidence in more than a decade on Reddit of any level of accountability from faceless, nameless mods when they misbehave.
  - Gigachad 3y ago
    Oh I agree it might be a good thing for the site. But it will be an incredible expense that I’m not sure the company can even afford. As well as the fact the site might not even be compatible with paid moderation. Every other social media lets users just post whatever they want as long as it’s not a site wide rule violation. But reddit thrives on moderators curating communities to a certain quality level. It’s easy for paid mods to remove abuse and illegal content. But it will be much harder for them to filter out off topic or low effort posts.
  - worrycue 3y ago
    Paid mods aren’t really much better. Whoever pays them will “pull their strings”. They will never truly be be on the side of the people/community they moderate. Like HR in corporations, ultimately they are accountable only to the ones that pay them.

Gigachad 3y ago

I’m thinking the actual outcome of this protest is that reddit has to replace all moderators with paid staff. Since free mods are all insane. The altruistic mods left when it became clear they aren’t building a community, they are doing unpaid janny work for a corporation that hates them.

TMWNN 3y ago
> I’m thinking the actual outcome of this protest is that reddit has to replace all moderators with paid staff. Since free mods are all insane. Paid staff would indeed be a huge, huge improvement over ideologically driven no-lifes. What tipped me over to Reddit's side regarding the API change is the possibility that it will end the practice of mods sharing automated block lists (if you post in a wrongthink subreddit, many other subreddits will preemptively ban you regardless of your actual activity in them, if any). If so, and if there are fewer handfuls of powermods that control dozens/hundreds/thousands of subreddits, I'm all for the change. This is not to say that I condone what /u/spez did regarding editing /r/The_Donald comments, or misrepresenting what happened on the call with Apollo's owner. Paid staff can and do unduly push their own ideological bents. But when there is a name and a face attached to a company employee, there is some hope of holding people to account. The Challenor mess should never have happened, but at least the person was fired by Reddit. I have never, ever seen any evidence in more than a decade on Reddit of any level of accountability from faceless, nameless mods when they misbehave.
- Gigachad 3y ago
  Oh I agree it might be a good thing for the site. But it will be an incredible expense that I’m not sure the company can even afford. As well as the fact the site might not even be compatible with paid moderation. Every other social media lets users just post whatever they want as long as it’s not a site wide rule violation. But reddit thrives on moderators curating communities to a certain quality level. It’s easy for paid mods to remove abuse and illegal content. But it will be much harder for them to filter out off topic or low effort posts.
- worrycue 3y ago
  Paid mods aren’t really much better. Whoever pays them will “pull their strings”. They will never truly be be on the side of the people/community they moderate. Like HR in corporations, ultimately they are accountable only to the ones that pay them.