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> If they weren't particularly interesting in competing in aerial surveillance then it may have been seen as worth the money they got in return. You really ben

> If they weren't particularly interesting in competing in aerial surveillance then it may have been seen as worth the money they got in return. You really bend it to fit your narrative. Not sure what the Soviets believed, but no sane country would want to help their adversaries to achieve stronger offensive capabilities, which surveillance would no doubt help. Bribery though, that wouldn't be too outrageous. I don't see why CIA want to hide that fact though. Bribery along with blackmailing are common spying tools.

NotYourLawyer 3y ago
And accepting bribes was a common USSR technique.
yakshaving_jgt 3y ago
> no sane country We’re talking about russia/USSR here.
akira2501 3y ago
> but no sane country would want to help their adversaries to achieve stronger offensive capabilities, which surveillance would no doubt help This was an arms race, not a single tactical battle decision. A shrewd opponent may be able to use your new technology to internally launch development of their own. They would likely recognize that after Gary Powers you weren't performing overflights anymore. They would also have had satellite imaging, and there is some data that they did use them to image the plane during testing. So.. you let your enemy build an expensive new toy that isn't particularly useful outside of a full scale nuclear war while you build yourself some fast new fighters and some high altitude missile technology. Is either that, or you seemingly have to accept that the KGB could not have possibly have seen through the that titanium pizza ovens story. It's much more likely that even trying to pass this off made the entire ruse all the more obvious to them.
justinclift 3y ago
> but no sane country would want to help their adversaries to achieve stronger offensive capabilities Yet here in Australia, we're still happily selling iron ore to China. The same iron ore that gets turned into weaponry for China and its friends (among other things).
thescriptkiddie 3y ago
> no sane country would want to help their adversaries to achieve stronger offensive capabilities The cold war was very much a one-sided affair. The USA may have seen the USSR as a military adversary, but the USSR did not see the USA the same way.

NotYourLawyer 3y ago

And accepting bribes was a common USSR technique.

yakshaving_jgt 3y ago

> no sane country We’re talking about russia/USSR here.

akira2501 3y ago

> but no sane country would want to help their adversaries to achieve stronger offensive capabilities, which surveillance would no doubt help This was an arms race, not a single tactical battle decision. A shrewd opponent may be able to use your new technology to internally launch development of their own. They would likely recognize that after Gary Powers you weren't performing overflights anymore. They would also have had satellite imaging, and there is some data that they did use them to image the plane during testing. So.. you let your enemy build an expensive new toy that isn't particularly useful outside of a full scale nuclear war while you build yourself some fast new fighters and some high altitude missile technology. Is either that, or you seemingly have to accept that the KGB could not have possibly have seen through the that titanium pizza ovens story. It's much more likely that even trying to pass this off made the entire ruse all the more obvious to them.

justinclift 3y ago

> but no sane country would want to help their adversaries to achieve stronger offensive capabilities Yet here in Australia, we're still happily selling iron ore to China. The same iron ore that gets turned into weaponry for China and its friends (among other things).

thescriptkiddie 3y ago

> no sane country would want to help their adversaries to achieve stronger offensive capabilities The cold war was very much a one-sided affair. The USA may have seen the USSR as a military adversary, but the USSR did not see the USA the same way.