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I think it's perfectly ordinary for a new web application to hit scaling issues at that number. Accidental O(n^2) stuff, missing database indexes, poor use of m

I think it's perfectly ordinary for a new web application to hit scaling issues at that number. Accidental O(n^2) stuff, missing database indexes, poor use of memory, excessive I/O are easy mistakes to make during initial implementation and probably will get fixed.

mvdtnz 3y ago
That's what I mean by "no good reason". This is the scale where you start to notice the stupid stuff you let through - N+1's, excessive unnecessary string allocations in inner loops, debug logging etc. What I mean is, there's nothing fundamental about their tech choices that could explain such low scaling limits. It'll be either poor design/architecture, poor coding standards or both.
- dragontamer 3y ago
  I don't think the Lemmy developers were expecting #RedditBlackout to dump 150,000 users onto their federation in a week. They were probably trucking along with various feature requests when suddenly performance became an issue this past week.
  - mvdtnz 3y ago
    Where are you finding that number, 150,000? The instance in question has one one hundredth that figure and the Lemmy devs claim 27,000 accounts grand total.
    - dragontamer 3y ago
      Lemmy.world is 31k users alone. Beehaw.org is 12.k users (and each of those users at Beehaw.org were manually curated) Maybe 150,000 is wrong, I saw it posted somewhere but I'm not sure what the methodology is. But between Lemmy.world and Beehaw.org we're already at 43k+ users. 27k is a gross underestimate. ------------- EDIT: https://kbin.social/nodeinfo/2.0 https://kbin.social/nodeinfo/2.0 https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy Lemmy-fediverse is claiming 159,000+ users today. EDIT2: kbin link must have been glitched. kbin.social's specific nodeinfo is "only" claiming 35k users, which is still substantial.
      - realitythreek 3y ago
        I agree with your point that whatever the number, they weren’t expecting that surge right now. The actual number is barely relevant.
      - deleted 3y ago
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    - dragontamer 3y ago
      > Lemmy devs Programming.dev is _NOT_ the lemmy devs. This is a discussion from https://programmers.dev https://programmers.dev, a totally separate group of people. This is just an administrator who is sharing their Lemmy experiences while talking about Rust and such.

mvdtnz 3y ago

That's what I mean by "no good reason". This is the scale where you start to notice the stupid stuff you let through - N+1's, excessive unnecessary string allocations in inner loops, debug logging etc. What I mean is, there's nothing fundamental about their tech choices that could explain such low scaling limits. It'll be either poor design/architecture, poor coding standards or both.

dragontamer 3y ago
I don't think the Lemmy developers were expecting #RedditBlackout to dump 150,000 users onto their federation in a week. They were probably trucking along with various feature requests when suddenly performance became an issue this past week.
- mvdtnz 3y ago
  Where are you finding that number, 150,000? The instance in question has one one hundredth that figure and the Lemmy devs claim 27,000 accounts grand total.
  - dragontamer 3y ago
    Lemmy.world is 31k users alone. Beehaw.org is 12.k users (and each of those users at Beehaw.org were manually curated) Maybe 150,000 is wrong, I saw it posted somewhere but I'm not sure what the methodology is. But between Lemmy.world and Beehaw.org we're already at 43k+ users. 27k is a gross underestimate. ------------- EDIT: https://kbin.social/nodeinfo/2.0 https://kbin.social/nodeinfo/2.0 https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy Lemmy-fediverse is claiming 159,000+ users today. EDIT2: kbin link must have been glitched. kbin.social's specific nodeinfo is "only" claiming 35k users, which is still substantial.
    - realitythreek 3y ago
      I agree with your point that whatever the number, they weren’t expecting that surge right now. The actual number is barely relevant.
    - deleted 3y ago
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  - dragontamer 3y ago
    > Lemmy devs Programming.dev is _NOT_ the lemmy devs. This is a discussion from https://programmers.dev https://programmers.dev, a totally separate group of people. This is just an administrator who is sharing their Lemmy experiences while talking about Rust and such.