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What exactly is an office superior at other than providing: - Leaking roofs - Stinky coworkers - Shitty food - Flickering lights - Constant interruptions f

What exactly is an office superior at other than providing: - Leaking roofs - Stinky coworkers - Shitty food - Flickering lights - Constant interruptions from people just saying "hi" - Unproductive commutes

mardifoufs 3y ago
You are confirming that you are heavily biased by what seem to be extremely poor and uncommon experiences (I mean, leaky roofs?). It's normal to be biased based on personal experiences but it still does not make wfh objectively superior (or vice versa).
- hooverd 3y ago
  They forgot black mold and dead snakes/rodents.
alex_lav 3y ago
Yet another post that is pure bias. I won't bother listing the reasons you're wrong, because I feel they're fairly apparent, but instead just point out that every single one of your points is also possible when working from home.
YetAnotherNick 3y ago
I know you have made your mind, but still I could try. And please do not reply by saying these things don't matter. They might not matter to you and that is your choice, but it matters to me. - No background noise of children in people's microphone. - No exhausting hour long zoom calls. For me, online meeting is much more exhausting than in person. - Watercooler discussion - Parties - Social circle
- infamouscow 3y ago
  I can't speak to your first two points, but the watercolor discussions, parties, and social aspects were things I used to enjoy too. In 2020 a lot of that changed, and as much as people want to go back, I don't think that's possible. There's a segment of ICs around 30-36 years old who had a difficult time with lockdowns and only now starting to get their lives back together.[1] It's also a question whether or not WFH is a Title I accommodation. I'm sure there's plenty of disability and labor lawyers that can make the argument office settings are unnecessary and psychologically harmful. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29940404 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29940404

mardifoufs 3y ago

You are confirming that you are heavily biased by what seem to be extremely poor and uncommon experiences (I mean, leaky roofs?). It's normal to be biased based on personal experiences but it still does not make wfh objectively superior (or vice versa).

hooverd 3y ago
They forgot black mold and dead snakes/rodents.

alex_lav 3y ago

Yet another post that is pure bias. I won't bother listing the reasons you're wrong, because I feel they're fairly apparent, but instead just point out that every single one of your points is also possible when working from home.

YetAnotherNick 3y ago

I know you have made your mind, but still I could try. And please do not reply by saying these things don't matter. They might not matter to you and that is your choice, but it matters to me. - No background noise of children in people's microphone. - No exhausting hour long zoom calls. For me, online meeting is much more exhausting than in person. - Watercooler discussion - Parties - Social circle

infamouscow 3y ago
I can't speak to your first two points, but the watercolor discussions, parties, and social aspects were things I used to enjoy too. In 2020 a lot of that changed, and as much as people want to go back, I don't think that's possible. There's a segment of ICs around 30-36 years old who had a difficult time with lockdowns and only now starting to get their lives back together.[1] It's also a question whether or not WFH is a Title I accommodation. I'm sure there's plenty of disability and labor lawyers that can make the argument office settings are unnecessary and psychologically harmful. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29940404 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29940404