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You think this wouldn't cause a million different problems for individuals and the legal system? There are countless reasons why a house might be sitting empty

You think this wouldn't cause a million different problems for individuals and the legal system? There are countless reasons why a house might be sitting empty for a period of time.

TheHappyOddish 3y ago
This has been a thing in Australia and UK for some time and it seems to work fine.
throwaway290 3y ago
What are the reasons for your house to be empty for years unless you have another place to live, aka hoard property?
- bobs_salsa 3y ago
  The only good reason I can think of at the moment are prison or medical reasons which leave you in a hospital for an extended period of time. In those cases those peoples rights of ownership to their homes should be upheld. Otherwise, I agree that we should go hard against property hoarding.
- refurb 3y ago
  My grandfather fell broke his hip and moved in with us for a year. It was touch and go whether he could recover and move back home. Thankfully he did. Is he a “hoarder”?
  - throwaway290 3y ago
    That's a good enough reason. Since he had to move in with you this means he lives alone though? do you consider it safe for him to live alone in the old age? (For his own sake not just for the sake of healthy housing market)
ajross 3y ago
> There are countless reasons why a house might be sitting empty for a period of time. The point is that there are very few good reasons. Public policy should have as its core goal that housing is used for homes.
- sethammons 3y ago
  What if I leave for work for a year? Or 4? What is a "good" reason? If I own a house and left for a decade to binge drink, why should that mean I don't keep my paid for property? At what threshold do you tell someone: fuck you and your property, we are taking it because we want it. If siblings inherit, should only the ones who live there have any rights to it?
  - ajross 3y ago
    That's right, there are tradeoffs. So an absolute answer isn't the right solution here and we need to come up with policies that meet everyone's needs. To pick your first example: keeping your old home while you work abroad for a year seems not unreasonable. But demanding that you place it on the market as a rental (or sell it) if you're gone for 4-10 (!) seems likewise like a very reasonable regulation to me.
    - user432678 3y ago
      Where should I put my stuff, while the property is being rented? What if I get fired and need to return in a short notice (working on a worker’s visa)? My situation is exactly that, I left my apartment first time for 3 years. Got fired and had to return. This time it’s six years already, haven’t been “home” even once since then. I don’t have anyone to help me manage the rental. Not selling the apartment right now because I’m waiting for citizenship in a different country. Which might not work out, thus I’ll need a place to return to. Yes, my situation is anecdotal, can’t disagree. But forcing me to rent out with more taxes doesn’t sound fair as well. Especially that in many places it’s the government who created all that bureaucracy which prevents people to build new houses inflating prices and all that.
  - 3y ago

You think this wouldn't cause a million different problems for individuals and the legal system? There are countless reasons why a house might be sitting empty for a period of time.

TheHappyOddish 3y ago

This has been a thing in Australia and UK for some time and it seems to work fine.

throwaway290 3y ago

What are the reasons for your house to be empty for years unless you have another place to live, aka hoard property?

bobs_salsa 3y ago
The only good reason I can think of at the moment are prison or medical reasons which leave you in a hospital for an extended period of time. In those cases those peoples rights of ownership to their homes should be upheld. Otherwise, I agree that we should go hard against property hoarding.
refurb 3y ago
My grandfather fell broke his hip and moved in with us for a year. It was touch and go whether he could recover and move back home. Thankfully he did. Is he a “hoarder”?
- throwaway290 3y ago
  That's a good enough reason. Since he had to move in with you this means he lives alone though? do you consider it safe for him to live alone in the old age? (For his own sake not just for the sake of healthy housing market)

ajross 3y ago

> There are countless reasons why a house might be sitting empty for a period of time. The point is that there are very few good reasons. Public policy should have as its core goal that housing is used for homes.

sethammons 3y ago
What if I leave for work for a year? Or 4? What is a "good" reason? If I own a house and left for a decade to binge drink, why should that mean I don't keep my paid for property? At what threshold do you tell someone: fuck you and your property, we are taking it because we want it. If siblings inherit, should only the ones who live there have any rights to it?
- ajross 3y ago
  That's right, there are tradeoffs. So an absolute answer isn't the right solution here and we need to come up with policies that meet everyone's needs. To pick your first example: keeping your old home while you work abroad for a year seems not unreasonable. But demanding that you place it on the market as a rental (or sell it) if you're gone for 4-10 (!) seems likewise like a very reasonable regulation to me.
  - user432678 3y ago
    Where should I put my stuff, while the property is being rented? What if I get fired and need to return in a short notice (working on a worker’s visa)? My situation is exactly that, I left my apartment first time for 3 years. Got fired and had to return. This time it’s six years already, haven’t been “home” even once since then. I don’t have anyone to help me manage the rental. Not selling the apartment right now because I’m waiting for citizenship in a different country. Which might not work out, thus I’ll need a place to return to. Yes, my situation is anecdotal, can’t disagree. But forcing me to rent out with more taxes doesn’t sound fair as well. Especially that in many places it’s the government who created all that bureaucracy which prevents people to build new houses inflating prices and all that.
- 3y ago