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Russia arming Iran in exchange for drones is likely changing Israeli reluctance to help Ukraine. There was already a recent announcement about tanks. It's only

by shmerl 3y ago

Russia arming Iran in exchange for drones is likely changing Israeli reluctance to help Ukraine. There was already a recent announcement about tanks. It's only a matter of time before they'll completely stop caring about placating Putin who is losing his grip everywhere anyway.

lostlogin 3y ago
Are Russian weapons going to Iran? Russia seems to be short of all weapons so this would surprise me. I have zero expertise in this area, I just read about it a fair bit.
- shmerl 3y ago
  Supposedly they plan to trade fighter jets and other technologies for drones. And it is bizarre, but I guess they have extra jets to spare. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-buy-su-35-fighter-jets-russia-iranian-broadcaster-2023-03-11/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-buy-su-35-fig...
  - baybal2 3y ago
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  - splendor_spoon 3y ago
    It’s my understanding that the Russian air campaign in Ukraine was rather unsuccessful so they ended up pulling their jets back. > By June 2022, Russia had not achieved air superiority, having lost around 165 of its combat aircraft over Ukraine which amounted to approximately 10% of its frontline combat strength. Western commentators noted the qualitative and quantitative advantages the Russian Air Force had over its Ukrainian counterpart, but attributed the poor performance of Russian aviation to the extensive ground-based anti-aircraft capabilities of the Ukrainians. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_warfare_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_warfare_in_the_Russia...
    - petre 3y ago
      They're safekeeping their jets in case of a NATO attack, using them to launch missiles from the Caspian. They've also moved some strategic bombers to Olenya airbase in the Kola peninsula, near Finland and Norway. Russian doctrine is based on multiple layers of anti aerial defense. What Russia has is lots of Cold War era equipment that they are sending into Ukraine. It'll do, as they don't put a price on human life. It's a war of attrition at this point. The moment we give up on Ukraine is the moment they start winning.
      - shmerl 3y ago
        That's not infinite either. They are already starting to run low on tanks and artillery. But yeah, this war of attrition has to go for some time before they run out of it to the critical level. So they put a lot of effort into pushing "negotiations" since they know they'll lose if this will continue. Good thing is that most understand it well and no one is buying their "negotiations" whining.
        petre 3y ago
        They're not yet running low on equipment but on human resource to crew and supply their equipment, according to the WSJ. https://www.wsj.com/articles/tattered-and-bandaged-russian-pows-describe-ukraines-offensive-3ee8c7e3 https://www.wsj.com/articles/tattered-and-bandaged-russian-p...
        shmerl 3y ago
        They started deploying increasing number of attack helicopters as a substitute for artillery that has been decimated in bigger numbers than usual in the recent battles. So they are either running low on it, or at least can't restore it fast enough that they risk expensive helicopters that they now also started constantly losing. The trend is very bad for them either way.
        petre 3y ago
- alephnerd 3y ago
  Russian IP. The manufacturing capacity no longer exists in Russia c. 2023 so Russian MICs have begun working on IP Licensing deals with MICs in Iran, China, and India. For a lot of weapon systems and technolgies (eg. Jet Engines, EWS, etc) Russian IP is comparable to that within NATO+. That said, having cutting edge IP is useless when execution is badly managed (eg. A2AD, Joint Forces Operations, Logistics). Btw, this is why you are seeing US strategymakers concentrate on the PRC now - if a mujahid with a rusty AK-47 left over in 1988 can still kill a Green Beret in Ghazni, now imagine if we are facing a nation with the technical capabilities of the US in the 1990s and 2000s.
- petre 3y ago
  Where do you think they've got the the first commercial nuclear reactor and ICBM know-how from?
  - lostlogin 3y ago
    I had no idea. But on looking it was the US, then Russia. “Iran's nuclear program was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States under the Atoms for Peace program” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran

by shmerl 3y ago

lostlogin 3y ago

Are Russian weapons going to Iran? Russia seems to be short of all weapons so this would surprise me. I have zero expertise in this area, I just read about it a fair bit.

shmerl 3y ago
Supposedly they plan to trade fighter jets and other technologies for drones. And it is bizarre, but I guess they have extra jets to spare. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-buy-su-35-fighter-jets-russia-iranian-broadcaster-2023-03-11/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-buy-su-35-fig...
- baybal2 3y ago
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- splendor_spoon 3y ago
  It’s my understanding that the Russian air campaign in Ukraine was rather unsuccessful so they ended up pulling their jets back. > By June 2022, Russia had not achieved air superiority, having lost around 165 of its combat aircraft over Ukraine which amounted to approximately 10% of its frontline combat strength. Western commentators noted the qualitative and quantitative advantages the Russian Air Force had over its Ukrainian counterpart, but attributed the poor performance of Russian aviation to the extensive ground-based anti-aircraft capabilities of the Ukrainians. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_warfare_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_warfare_in_the_Russia...
  - petre 3y ago
    They're safekeeping their jets in case of a NATO attack, using them to launch missiles from the Caspian. They've also moved some strategic bombers to Olenya airbase in the Kola peninsula, near Finland and Norway. Russian doctrine is based on multiple layers of anti aerial defense. What Russia has is lots of Cold War era equipment that they are sending into Ukraine. It'll do, as they don't put a price on human life. It's a war of attrition at this point. The moment we give up on Ukraine is the moment they start winning.
    - shmerl 3y ago
      That's not infinite either. They are already starting to run low on tanks and artillery. But yeah, this war of attrition has to go for some time before they run out of it to the critical level. So they put a lot of effort into pushing "negotiations" since they know they'll lose if this will continue. Good thing is that most understand it well and no one is buying their "negotiations" whining.
      - petre 3y ago
        They're not yet running low on equipment but on human resource to crew and supply their equipment, according to the WSJ. https://www.wsj.com/articles/tattered-and-bandaged-russian-pows-describe-ukraines-offensive-3ee8c7e3 https://www.wsj.com/articles/tattered-and-bandaged-russian-p...
        shmerl 3y ago
        They started deploying increasing number of attack helicopters as a substitute for artillery that has been decimated in bigger numbers than usual in the recent battles. So they are either running low on it, or at least can't restore it fast enough that they risk expensive helicopters that they now also started constantly losing. The trend is very bad for them either way.
        petre 3y ago
alephnerd 3y ago
Russian IP. The manufacturing capacity no longer exists in Russia c. 2023 so Russian MICs have begun working on IP Licensing deals with MICs in Iran, China, and India. For a lot of weapon systems and technolgies (eg. Jet Engines, EWS, etc) Russian IP is comparable to that within NATO+. That said, having cutting edge IP is useless when execution is badly managed (eg. A2AD, Joint Forces Operations, Logistics). Btw, this is why you are seeing US strategymakers concentrate on the PRC now - if a mujahid with a rusty AK-47 left over in 1988 can still kill a Green Beret in Ghazni, now imagine if we are facing a nation with the technical capabilities of the US in the 1990s and 2000s.
petre 3y ago
Where do you think they've got the the first commercial nuclear reactor and ICBM know-how from?
- lostlogin 3y ago
  I had no idea. But on looking it was the US, then Russia. “Iran's nuclear program was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States under the Atoms for Peace program” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran