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I wonder if this is related to the brain's pattern matching. Brain A anticipates the actions of SocialBeing B and rewards being right. Ditto the other direction

I wonder if this is related to the brain's pattern matching. Brain A anticipates the actions of SocialBeing B and rewards being right. Ditto the other direction. Anticipated and confirmed behavior leading to synchronization in brain waves. Curious if we can see cross species effects, like a person and their dog.

onlyrealcuzzo 3y ago
I would imagine dogs could be a special case. We evolved together.
- diegoholiveira 3y ago
  > We evolved together. Source?
  - newoldhead 3y ago
    15,000 years of domestication Not really "evolution" for humans but we wouldn't have things like Chihuahuas or Pugs without humans breeding dogs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human%E2%80%93canine_bond https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human%E2%80%93canine_bond
    - diegoholiveira 3y ago
      On the last 15k years, I’m not sure about changes in our own species. That’s why I found the “together” an strange affirmation.
      - civilitty 3y ago
        We don’t have any specific genes to point to like with lactose tolerance but humans have definitely coevolved with dogs, especially pastoralists and hunters. With dogs most of the obvious coevolution has just been cultural.
    - Enginerrrd 3y ago
      Actually, that's plenty of time for meaningful evolution in humans too. Lots of changes in general distributions in response to environmental influences occur in that time.
  - tomca32 3y ago
    I enjoyed this lecture about dog evolution and domestication. https://youtu.be/CiD-qZDl9jQ https://youtu.be/CiD-qZDl9jQ
bequanna 3y ago
Dogs seem to share some things in common to us which are unique. For example, both people and dogs will scan faces in a similar way by looking at the mouth and eyes in the same pattern.
- Etrnl_President 3y ago
  Dogs have existed for hundreds of years, but we still don't know a lot about them.
jasfi 3y ago
My bet is on mirror neurons facilitating this.
- sethammons 3y ago
  In the article: > What they are seeing goes well beyond previous research on so-called mirror neurons, which represent both the self and another. (When I watch you throw a ball, it activates a set of mirror neurons in my brain that would also be activated if I were doing the same thing myself.) In contrast, the self and other cells Hong and Kingsbury discovered encode only the behavior of one individual or the other. All three kinds of cells—mirror, self and other—were present and aligning in the mouse brains.
swayvil 3y ago
Or maybe it's subconscious decoding of saccade patterns, microexpressions or even pheromones. Did they try it with eyes shut? After dousing in axe body spray?
- sethammons 3y ago
  They also did it with two people talking to each other over screens in two separate mri machines.
  - swayvil 3y ago
    Woah! Psychic powers it is

onlyrealcuzzo 3y ago

I would imagine dogs could be a special case. We evolved together.

diegoholiveira 3y ago
> We evolved together. Source?
- newoldhead 3y ago
  15,000 years of domestication Not really "evolution" for humans but we wouldn't have things like Chihuahuas or Pugs without humans breeding dogs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human%E2%80%93canine_bond https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human%E2%80%93canine_bond
  - diegoholiveira 3y ago
    On the last 15k years, I’m not sure about changes in our own species. That’s why I found the “together” an strange affirmation.
    - civilitty 3y ago
      We don’t have any specific genes to point to like with lactose tolerance but humans have definitely coevolved with dogs, especially pastoralists and hunters. With dogs most of the obvious coevolution has just been cultural.
  - Enginerrrd 3y ago
    Actually, that's plenty of time for meaningful evolution in humans too. Lots of changes in general distributions in response to environmental influences occur in that time.
- tomca32 3y ago
  I enjoyed this lecture about dog evolution and domestication. https://youtu.be/CiD-qZDl9jQ https://youtu.be/CiD-qZDl9jQ

bequanna 3y ago

Dogs seem to share some things in common to us which are unique. For example, both people and dogs will scan faces in a similar way by looking at the mouth and eyes in the same pattern.

Etrnl_President 3y ago
Dogs have existed for hundreds of years, but we still don't know a lot about them.

jasfi 3y ago

My bet is on mirror neurons facilitating this.

sethammons 3y ago
In the article: > What they are seeing goes well beyond previous research on so-called mirror neurons, which represent both the self and another. (When I watch you throw a ball, it activates a set of mirror neurons in my brain that would also be activated if I were doing the same thing myself.) In contrast, the self and other cells Hong and Kingsbury discovered encode only the behavior of one individual or the other. All three kinds of cells—mirror, self and other—were present and aligning in the mouse brains.

swayvil 3y ago

Or maybe it's subconscious decoding of saccade patterns, microexpressions or even pheromones. Did they try it with eyes shut? After dousing in axe body spray?

sethammons 3y ago
They also did it with two people talking to each other over screens in two separate mri machines.
- swayvil 3y ago
  Woah! Psychic powers it is