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Yes, but pine64 shipping is a serious pain point for many regions. I used to buy lots of cheap stuff from them with "EU standard shipping" to Poland that cost l

Yes, but pine64 shipping is a serious pain point for many regions. I used to buy lots of cheap stuff from them with "EU standard shipping" to Poland that cost like 10eur. This shipping method has disappeared to Poland and many other EU countries last year. Last time I checked they wanted 35eur for shipping. I'm not paying that when buying a $9 board.

rbanffy 3y ago
Sounds like a business opportunity for setting up a distribution centre in Europe. Considering the volume, shipping by plane from China to Europe to keep minimal stock and using standard mail would be quite effective.
- _Microft 3y ago
  They only offer a very limited selection of the products but there is https://www.pine64eu.com https://www.pine64eu.com
n8henrie 3y ago
Yes, I was shocked when I finally decided to try a pinetab and got all the way to checkout before discovering a $60 shipping charge for my $160 tablet. Disappointed, "remove from cart," guess I'll buy some android tablet instead.
hoistbypetard 3y ago
The Milk-V appears to be unavailable outside mainland China at the moment, which would seem to be a more serious pain point for more regions.
- wongarsu 3y ago
  If it proves to be even marginally popular it will be sold by tons of resellers on Aliexpress in a couple days or at most weeks.
  - tacon 3y ago
    It is already for sale on Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805512900866.html https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805512900866.html
onlyrealcuzzo 3y ago
Shouldn't it fit in a padded envelope? I'm surprised shipping is an issue.
- jdiff 3y ago
  There's something severely screwy with their shipping. To my rural US location, it'd cost $12 for the cheapest shipping for just one Ox64. I've shipped 15lb/7kg, microwave-oven-sized packages more than a thousand miles for that price. It just should not cost that much. A USPS priority flat rate box costs less than that even for your average non-commercial human individual.
  - tomcam 3y ago
    > I've shipped 15lb/7kg, microwave-oven-sized packages more than a thousand miles for that price. Mind telling me what shipping method?
    - jdiff 3y ago
      USPS or FedEx Ground via EasyPost, whichever's cheaper on a given day for a given package. I just punched in the numbers and a 6x6" padded envelope weighing a half a pound would cost us $4.12. I just shipped a 22x16x17" package weighing 34lbs for $21.65. And we're a small rural shirt shop, most people are ordering shirts for family reunions and sorts teams. Most days we don't ship anything, so we have very little volume.
      - tomcam 3y ago
        First of all, I would love to hear how you ended up in that business. Do you silkscreen or make actual shirts or what? Second, is there some kind of website you have to determine the cheapest shipping that day? Thanks much!
        jdiff 3y ago
        Oh unfortunately there's no interesting tales in a rural area like this lol. I needed a job, stumbled on this listing, sent off an email, got told to swing by the shop some time. Most people here wear at least a little of everyone else's hats. I emulse and burn screens, weed out lots of vinyl, cut and grommet banners, help cover graphic design, and as far as actually making shirts and hats I'm mainly just on the heat presses with the vinyls and transfer films. And there is, sorta. While our shipping goes through EasyPost, we rarely interact directly with it. Instead our shop uses a web app called Printavo to manage orders. After feeding it the package details it interfaces with EasyPost (very helpfully autofilling the customer's details from the invoice) and displays all available shipping options from USPS, UPS, and FedEx along with prices for all of them. Sometimes the cheapest shipping varies box by box, but in my experience it's always either USPS Priority Mail or (more often) FedEx Ground. And never, ever anything UPS. Kinda confusingly, I've never seen any of that info on EasyPost itself, just Printavo's wrapper around it.
jesprenj 3y ago
I ordered two boards when a bunch of friends made a group order "in bulk" from them. We split up the shipping costs to 5 so it was $6 shipping per person. The EU store has considerably more expensive stock, I assume they have to make sone product guarantees to comply with stricter laws. A Pinecil I bought was almost two times as expensive, though it came without additional shipping costs, from Poland I think.

rbanffy 3y ago

Sounds like a business opportunity for setting up a distribution centre in Europe. Considering the volume, shipping by plane from China to Europe to keep minimal stock and using standard mail would be quite effective.

_Microft 3y ago
They only offer a very limited selection of the products but there is https://www.pine64eu.com https://www.pine64eu.com

n8henrie 3y ago

Yes, I was shocked when I finally decided to try a pinetab and got all the way to checkout before discovering a $60 shipping charge for my $160 tablet. Disappointed, "remove from cart," guess I'll buy some android tablet instead.

hoistbypetard 3y ago

The Milk-V appears to be unavailable outside mainland China at the moment, which would seem to be a more serious pain point for more regions.

wongarsu 3y ago
If it proves to be even marginally popular it will be sold by tons of resellers on Aliexpress in a couple days or at most weeks.
- tacon 3y ago
  It is already for sale on Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805512900866.html https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805512900866.html

onlyrealcuzzo 3y ago

Shouldn't it fit in a padded envelope? I'm surprised shipping is an issue.

jdiff 3y ago
There's something severely screwy with their shipping. To my rural US location, it'd cost $12 for the cheapest shipping for just one Ox64. I've shipped 15lb/7kg, microwave-oven-sized packages more than a thousand miles for that price. It just should not cost that much. A USPS priority flat rate box costs less than that even for your average non-commercial human individual.
- tomcam 3y ago
  > I've shipped 15lb/7kg, microwave-oven-sized packages more than a thousand miles for that price. Mind telling me what shipping method?
  - jdiff 3y ago
    USPS or FedEx Ground via EasyPost, whichever's cheaper on a given day for a given package. I just punched in the numbers and a 6x6" padded envelope weighing a half a pound would cost us $4.12. I just shipped a 22x16x17" package weighing 34lbs for $21.65. And we're a small rural shirt shop, most people are ordering shirts for family reunions and sorts teams. Most days we don't ship anything, so we have very little volume.
    - tomcam 3y ago
      First of all, I would love to hear how you ended up in that business. Do you silkscreen or make actual shirts or what? Second, is there some kind of website you have to determine the cheapest shipping that day? Thanks much!
      - jdiff 3y ago
        Oh unfortunately there's no interesting tales in a rural area like this lol. I needed a job, stumbled on this listing, sent off an email, got told to swing by the shop some time. Most people here wear at least a little of everyone else's hats. I emulse and burn screens, weed out lots of vinyl, cut and grommet banners, help cover graphic design, and as far as actually making shirts and hats I'm mainly just on the heat presses with the vinyls and transfer films. And there is, sorta. While our shipping goes through EasyPost, we rarely interact directly with it. Instead our shop uses a web app called Printavo to manage orders. After feeding it the package details it interfaces with EasyPost (very helpfully autofilling the customer's details from the invoice) and displays all available shipping options from USPS, UPS, and FedEx along with prices for all of them. Sometimes the cheapest shipping varies box by box, but in my experience it's always either USPS Priority Mail or (more often) FedEx Ground. And never, ever anything UPS. Kinda confusingly, I've never seen any of that info on EasyPost itself, just Printavo's wrapper around it.

jesprenj 3y ago

I ordered two boards when a bunch of friends made a group order "in bulk" from them. We split up the shipping costs to 5 so it was $6 shipping per person. The EU store has considerably more expensive stock, I assume they have to make sone product guarantees to comply with stricter laws. A Pinecil I bought was almost two times as expensive, though it came without additional shipping costs, from Poland I think.