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I personally like Beyerdynamic. MX 150/100 if you want to have a mic, DT990 Pro if you want open-back and DT770 Pro for closed-back. Worth mentioning that the

by 4ggr0 3y ago

I personally like Beyerdynamic. MX 150/100 if you want to have a mic, DT990 Pro if you want open-back and DT770 Pro for closed-back. Worth mentioning that they're studio headphones, so if you like headphones with a lot of bass you might have to consider other models. At home I use Sennheiser Game One, before they were rebranded to EPOS. I really, really love them so if you can find them second-hand, go for them. They're hooked up to a Sennheiser GSX 1000. I use this setup for almost three years now and I'm really happy. For in-ears I use Marshall Mode EQs, I'm on the third pair now and am also really happy. They've got a lot of bass but when I'm commuting I actually prefer it over "true" sound :) As always with headphones, YMMV. I care about good sound but I'm not that much of an audiophile to care about exact frequency curves etc.

csdvrx 3y ago
Beyerdynamics are wonderful. I'd add SIVGA, far better than the Sennheiser I had! I'd suggest the SV021 if you want bass, or the SV003 if you prefer the flatness of studio headphones like the Beyers. I use them with a Sony Walkman DAP: best money I've ever spent! Good bass matters for some styles: the SV021 is better when I listen to say Моргенштерн
- 4ggr0 3y ago
  > I'd suggest the SV021 if you want bass Hmm, I actually am considering buying bassy over-ears, because all the over-ears I have are pretty neutral/studio sounding. I game a lot of singleplayer story-games and sometimes I feel that a bit more bass would be enjoyable for explosions, gunshots etc. Thanks for the recommendation, never heard of SIVGA :)
  - csdvrx 3y ago
    It's the most comfortable over-the-ears I've ever had - far better than anything several times the price! If you only have USB-C, pair them with a Moondrop DAC
    - 4ggr0 3y ago
      Luckily all my devices have a 3.5mm :) Didn't know that Moondrop made DACs, I know them because I had a pair of Starfields.
      - csdvrx 3y ago
        > Didn't know that Moondrop made DACs, I know them because I had a pair of Starfields. Moondrop Dawn, quite good
- cleerline 3y ago
  >the SV021 is better when I listen to say Моргенштерн when you listen to what now?
  - csdvrx 3y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenshtern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenshtern It's Russian rap - though for the last few years he's been moving more into RnB, which I don't like as much
kimburgess 3y ago
Beyer also recently release the DT 700/900 Pro X are someone of a spiritual successor to the classics. Importantly they now feature a detachable cables, includes a USB-C one with internal DAC and mic.
- 4ggr0 3y ago
  You're right! I didn't want to recommend the X versions because I never tried them myself, but I think judging by the feedback they get online they would be a good choice as well. The only downside is the cost. The non-X versions cost $140, the X-versions $220. Not sure if the $80 are worth it for me.
  - kimburgess 3y ago
    I picked up a pair of the 700 X's a couple of weeks ago - no complaints so far. The replaceable cable removes the only weak point in an otherwise completely repairable product. That lets me amortise any difference across a decade or so.
    - 4ggr0 3y ago
      > That lets me amortise any difference across a decade or so Good point, hadn't considered this! Well, I bought the DT 990Pro in the beginning of 2023 and the MMX150s like three weeks ago, so I'll see for how long I'll use them :D MMX150 are for the office because they're closed-back and the microphone is actually astonishingly good. At least people noticed in MS Teams calls.
mhitza 3y ago
I wonder why you're on your third pair of Marshall Mode EQs :) I'm partly having a go at them because I have a pair lying around that broke in less than a year. I usually go through a pair in a year (a year and a half) as I'm not very careful with the way I take care of my heaphones/in-ears. However, having said that, I think the EQs have a pretty mediocre build quality. For example, with the way I handled them, the cover of one in ear piece, fell of after a couple of months, and 6-8 months in the jack connector wires got a bit too much wear and tear and no longer connect properly. Also their EQ toggle made the treble (for the Electronic/DnB/Metal music I listen to) a bit too harsh. Personally for earbuds/earphones I'd recommend anything which is as flat as possible and then you can boost up your preferred range. Alternatively you can go with a pair that has a measured profile (https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq), which you can use to normalizes the frequency response and tweak it after. For example I went with the cheap AKG Type-C earbuds, which have very harsh mids towards treble (https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/samsung/akg-type-c https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/samsung/akg-type-c), but because their sound profile is within the database linked above, I could use Wavelet on Android to compensate for it (and EasyEffects on the desktop) to have them be as neutral as possible, and then boost on top of that. For a ~$10'ish pair of earbuds I am quite impressed. I also had to chose them because I have a "modern" phone that decided that a Jack is so 20th century.
- 4ggr0 3y ago
  > I wonder why you're on your third pair of Marshall Mode EQs :) I guess it's a mix between nostalgia and me just liking how the songs I like sound on them. They're the first pair of in-ears I bought myself. > I think the EQs have a pretty mediocre build quality I'll agree with you on that. The first pair lasted a year and the second not much longer. Then I just went with whatever. Two years ago I wanted to try out "good" in-ears and bought a pair of Moondrop Starfields. They were okay, but a bit flat, the cable broke, bought a different cable, which I've stepped on. Then I remembered that I was a fan of the Mode EQs like 6 years ago and bought a pair out of curiosity, which was end of 2022. And I just really like how they sound, and that they're light, and that they fit well, and that they look good. I don't know...I just like them :D Your explanation about measured profiles and Wavelet/EasyEffects sounds intriguing. I think I will try this approach with a different pair of headphones, I really wonder what you can get out of cheap in-ears. I tried to use EQs from time to time but I always end up tuning things for 30m without especially satisfying results. AutoEQ would help because it's automated :D Thanks!
adzm 3y ago
Beyerdynamic makes great headphones. Personally though I love my Audio Technica cans. I find I want different ones for different reasons - a flat frequency response isn't always the most pleasant

by 4ggr0 3y ago

csdvrx 3y ago

Beyerdynamics are wonderful. I'd add SIVGA, far better than the Sennheiser I had! I'd suggest the SV021 if you want bass, or the SV003 if you prefer the flatness of studio headphones like the Beyers. I use them with a Sony Walkman DAP: best money I've ever spent! Good bass matters for some styles: the SV021 is better when I listen to say Моргенштерн

4ggr0 3y ago
> I'd suggest the SV021 if you want bass Hmm, I actually am considering buying bassy over-ears, because all the over-ears I have are pretty neutral/studio sounding. I game a lot of singleplayer story-games and sometimes I feel that a bit more bass would be enjoyable for explosions, gunshots etc. Thanks for the recommendation, never heard of SIVGA :)
- csdvrx 3y ago
  It's the most comfortable over-the-ears I've ever had - far better than anything several times the price! If you only have USB-C, pair them with a Moondrop DAC
  - 4ggr0 3y ago
    Luckily all my devices have a 3.5mm :) Didn't know that Moondrop made DACs, I know them because I had a pair of Starfields.
    - csdvrx 3y ago
      > Didn't know that Moondrop made DACs, I know them because I had a pair of Starfields. Moondrop Dawn, quite good
cleerline 3y ago
>the SV021 is better when I listen to say Моргенштерн when you listen to what now?
- csdvrx 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenshtern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenshtern It's Russian rap - though for the last few years he's been moving more into RnB, which I don't like as much

kimburgess 3y ago

Beyer also recently release the DT 700/900 Pro X are someone of a spiritual successor to the classics. Importantly they now feature a detachable cables, includes a USB-C one with internal DAC and mic.

4ggr0 3y ago
You're right! I didn't want to recommend the X versions because I never tried them myself, but I think judging by the feedback they get online they would be a good choice as well. The only downside is the cost. The non-X versions cost $140, the X-versions $220. Not sure if the $80 are worth it for me.
- kimburgess 3y ago
  I picked up a pair of the 700 X's a couple of weeks ago - no complaints so far. The replaceable cable removes the only weak point in an otherwise completely repairable product. That lets me amortise any difference across a decade or so.
  - 4ggr0 3y ago
    > That lets me amortise any difference across a decade or so Good point, hadn't considered this! Well, I bought the DT 990Pro in the beginning of 2023 and the MMX150s like three weeks ago, so I'll see for how long I'll use them :D MMX150 are for the office because they're closed-back and the microphone is actually astonishingly good. At least people noticed in MS Teams calls.

mhitza 3y ago

I wonder why you're on your third pair of Marshall Mode EQs :) I'm partly having a go at them because I have a pair lying around that broke in less than a year. I usually go through a pair in a year (a year and a half) as I'm not very careful with the way I take care of my heaphones/in-ears. However, having said that, I think the EQs have a pretty mediocre build quality. For example, with the way I handled them, the cover of one in ear piece, fell of after a couple of months, and 6-8 months in the jack connector wires got a bit too much wear and tear and no longer connect properly. Also their EQ toggle made the treble (for the Electronic/DnB/Metal music I listen to) a bit too harsh. Personally for earbuds/earphones I'd recommend anything which is as flat as possible and then you can boost up your preferred range. Alternatively you can go with a pair that has a measured profile (https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq), which you can use to normalizes the frequency response and tweak it after. For example I went with the cheap AKG Type-C earbuds, which have very harsh mids towards treble (https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/samsung/akg-type-c https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/samsung/akg-type-c), but because their sound profile is within the database linked above, I could use Wavelet on Android to compensate for it (and EasyEffects on the desktop) to have them be as neutral as possible, and then boost on top of that. For a ~$10'ish pair of earbuds I am quite impressed. I also had to chose them because I have a "modern" phone that decided that a Jack is so 20th century.

4ggr0 3y ago
> I wonder why you're on your third pair of Marshall Mode EQs :) I guess it's a mix between nostalgia and me just liking how the songs I like sound on them. They're the first pair of in-ears I bought myself. > I think the EQs have a pretty mediocre build quality I'll agree with you on that. The first pair lasted a year and the second not much longer. Then I just went with whatever. Two years ago I wanted to try out "good" in-ears and bought a pair of Moondrop Starfields. They were okay, but a bit flat, the cable broke, bought a different cable, which I've stepped on. Then I remembered that I was a fan of the Mode EQs like 6 years ago and bought a pair out of curiosity, which was end of 2022. And I just really like how they sound, and that they're light, and that they fit well, and that they look good. I don't know...I just like them :D Your explanation about measured profiles and Wavelet/EasyEffects sounds intriguing. I think I will try this approach with a different pair of headphones, I really wonder what you can get out of cheap in-ears. I tried to use EQs from time to time but I always end up tuning things for 30m without especially satisfying results. AutoEQ would help because it's automated :D Thanks!

adzm 3y ago

Beyerdynamic makes great headphones. Personally though I love my Audio Technica cans. I find I want different ones for different reasons - a flat frequency response isn't always the most pleasant