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RSS doesn't need to solve this problem. If you decide you care enough about a given community you can make an account on that instance and go do it the regular

RSS doesn't need to solve this problem. If you decide you care enough about a given community you can make an account on that instance and go do it the regular way. The problem RSS solves is it prevents your whole world being captured by a particular community, instance, server, platform, company, whatever. Half the Internet is having an existential crisis over the Reddit implosion. RSS users aren't - we're kind of shrugging our shoulders and saying, well that's one of 10 places we get community, info, whatever, sure it's a big one but if it vanished overnight (which it sort of did) 85% of my feed would still be there. Reddit, Lemmies, blogs, podcasts, Mastodon instances, weird alt Tube sites, the Chans, the Tildes, SDF, probably more - contrary to recent HN posts about how all the web feels "samey" now, it's a big 'net out there these days. It's merely a question of the company you keep. If you only ate at chain restaurants, you'd feel that food has gotten pretty lame too.

eviks 3y ago
> RSS doesn't need to solve this problem Until it does it's not an alternative to SOCIAL networks > If you decide you care enough about a given community What if I don't have time to evaluate the whole community and just decide that I care enough about a given piece of content and want to add my very valuable contribution by upvoting? > whole world being captured by a particular community, instance, server... This is a nonexisting problem since there are many of those, so > one of 10 places we get community, info ... 85% of my feed would still be there this comparison doesn't make sense, if you only used Reddit for 15% of you news/ consumption, didn't care about it (didn't have any social capital there etc.) or other users, you'd also not have any existential crisis regardless of whether you used RSS or something else to read Reddit/other sources
- safety1st 3y ago
  I don't get the broader point you're trying to make here. That RSS is no good because it doesn't provide some kind of unified ID, posting/commenting capabilities etc.? I like tools that do one thing well. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy It's well documented that 95% of users are lurkers. 95% of the time I'm lurking, too. That's why following multiple communities across multiple platforms is useful. For the frequent times when we all lurk.
  - eviks 3y ago
    The broader point is pretty simple - you suggestion fails in the relevant problem domain, which is social networks > It's well documented that 95% of users are lurkers then you wouldn't mind citing a source? Though bear in mind that in this context lurker is a social media platform user who: a) reads but b) never interacts (no likes, no shares, no comments, no posts, no messages, no games etc.)
    - tourmalinetaco 3y ago
      > you suggestion fails in the relevant problem domain, which is social networks You say this when I’m talking to you through my RSS reader’s built-in browser. That seems pretty social to me. I’ve done the same with Reddit, and if Lemmy is truly as RSS-filled as this thread has led me to understand then the same is possible via Lemmy. Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t mean it “fails”.
- Forgeties79 3y ago
  > Until it does it's not an alternative to SOCIAL networks I get what you’re saying butI think this doesn’t matter quite as much as it does with Twitter, Facebook, etc. Plenty of us preferred when Reddit was less like a modern social media network (mostly the pitfalls) and are more than happy just lurking. I don’t need an online status light. I don’t want some weird “snoovatar” NFT nonsense. I want /r/videography so I can continue to learn about my craft. An RSS feed sounds great and I’m kind of annoyed at myself for no thinking of it already lol.
grep_name 3y ago
> weird alt tube sites What does this look like for you? I've failed to migrate any of my video consumption off YouTube due to lack of discoverability. (I know you can sub to yt channels via rss too but I'd like to do that less ideally to de-silo my video sources)
- tourmalinetaco 3y ago
  Discoverability is rather hard, not all YTers will announce their alt channels. I’ve found the most luck with LBRY/Odysee, especially STEM channels, and they even have a plugin for this[0]. However I haven’t tested it personally. I also suggest using Invidious for getting YT RSS feeds, its incredibly simple and a much cleaner (and more private) experience all around. [0] - https://github.com/LBRYFoundation/Watch-on-LBRY https://github.com/LBRYFoundation/Watch-on-LBRY
  - grep_name 3y ago
    I'll check out lbry/odysee, I've used invidious but have found it difficult to repair get 1080 there for some reason

eviks 3y ago

> RSS doesn't need to solve this problem Until it does it's not an alternative to SOCIAL networks > If you decide you care enough about a given community What if I don't have time to evaluate the whole community and just decide that I care enough about a given piece of content and want to add my very valuable contribution by upvoting? > whole world being captured by a particular community, instance, server... This is a nonexisting problem since there are many of those, so > one of 10 places we get community, info ... 85% of my feed would still be there this comparison doesn't make sense, if you only used Reddit for 15% of you news/ consumption, didn't care about it (didn't have any social capital there etc.) or other users, you'd also not have any existential crisis regardless of whether you used RSS or something else to read Reddit/other sources

safety1st 3y ago
I don't get the broader point you're trying to make here. That RSS is no good because it doesn't provide some kind of unified ID, posting/commenting capabilities etc.? I like tools that do one thing well. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy It's well documented that 95% of users are lurkers. 95% of the time I'm lurking, too. That's why following multiple communities across multiple platforms is useful. For the frequent times when we all lurk.
- eviks 3y ago
  The broader point is pretty simple - you suggestion fails in the relevant problem domain, which is social networks > It's well documented that 95% of users are lurkers then you wouldn't mind citing a source? Though bear in mind that in this context lurker is a social media platform user who: a) reads but b) never interacts (no likes, no shares, no comments, no posts, no messages, no games etc.)
  - tourmalinetaco 3y ago
    > you suggestion fails in the relevant problem domain, which is social networks You say this when I’m talking to you through my RSS reader’s built-in browser. That seems pretty social to me. I’ve done the same with Reddit, and if Lemmy is truly as RSS-filled as this thread has led me to understand then the same is possible via Lemmy. Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t mean it “fails”.
Forgeties79 3y ago
> Until it does it's not an alternative to SOCIAL networks I get what you’re saying butI think this doesn’t matter quite as much as it does with Twitter, Facebook, etc. Plenty of us preferred when Reddit was less like a modern social media network (mostly the pitfalls) and are more than happy just lurking. I don’t need an online status light. I don’t want some weird “snoovatar” NFT nonsense. I want /r/videography so I can continue to learn about my craft. An RSS feed sounds great and I’m kind of annoyed at myself for no thinking of it already lol.

grep_name 3y ago

> weird alt tube sites What does this look like for you? I've failed to migrate any of my video consumption off YouTube due to lack of discoverability. (I know you can sub to yt channels via rss too but I'd like to do that less ideally to de-silo my video sources)

tourmalinetaco 3y ago
Discoverability is rather hard, not all YTers will announce their alt channels. I’ve found the most luck with LBRY/Odysee, especially STEM channels, and they even have a plugin for this[0]. However I haven’t tested it personally. I also suggest using Invidious for getting YT RSS feeds, its incredibly simple and a much cleaner (and more private) experience all around. [0] - https://github.com/LBRYFoundation/Watch-on-LBRY https://github.com/LBRYFoundation/Watch-on-LBRY
- grep_name 3y ago
  I'll check out lbry/odysee, I've used invidious but have found it difficult to repair get 1080 there for some reason