> I feel it’s like it’s generational. Open offices can be implemented in sensible ways. Some companies had gorgeous open plans with people in decently large is

> I feel it’s like it’s generational. Open offices can be implemented in sensible ways. Some companies had gorgeous open plans with people in decently large islands still having space for themselves while being not so far from colleagues, with enough space between the islands to not hear everything the neighboring islands are doing. And then you had all other areas where you'd find a quiet corner to isolate if you really need to. I think that was the original pitch for the idea ? But of course those were super expensive, the luxurious space became cramped as more employees join and the offices aren't getting bigger, people wanting quiet places moved to emergency stairs and archival rooms etc. All things considered, I don't think people argue against the fundamental idea of open spaces, they just don't believe companies care enough or would resist cost cutting, making them horrible call center level hellscapes in the long run.