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> The vast majority don't care and will continue using Reddit. You forget the third category of people, the ones who'll just mostly stop using Reddit without s

> The vast majority don't care and will continue using Reddit. You forget the third category of people, the ones who'll just mostly stop using Reddit without seeking a 1-to-1 alternative.

satvikpendem 3y ago
That's also a small minority of people, they'd have to care about third party apps which are already a minority and also walk away from using the site, which can be hard if you already use it heavily, which it's likely that third party users do so. For example, I've been using third party apps for years but I downloaded the official app because I honestly don't care about the client I use for a particular site.
- littlestymaar 3y ago
  Time will tell, but third-party apps users (and old.reddit's[1] ones) also tend to be the most prolific users, and it's the posters and admin that run the show. [1]: they've already removed i.reddit earlier this year, I don't expect old.reddit to make it to 2024.
  - shagie 3y ago
    From a sub with reasonable traffic non-tech sub that I moderate... Normally I have ~75 new subscribers per day and less than 5 unsubscribes per day. Just prior to the strike, the subscribers dropped to ~35. At the start of the strike, unsubscribes went up to ~10 while new subscribers went up to ~100. During the strike, the number of new subscribers went up to ~175. Other subs with a similar topics (and the big one) had gone private during that time. I'm back to ~75 new subscribers per day. As to old vs other... page views per day for the past 30 days (very spiky) and the previous 30 days Past 30 days | Previous 30 days Client Low High | Low High old.reddit: ~35 ~100 | ~25 ~75 new.reddit: ~200 ~900 | ~200 ~400 Mobile web: ~100 ~300 | ~100 ~150 Android client: ~1000 ~2000 | ~1000 ~1500 iOS client: ~2000 ~6000 | ~2000 ~3000 Total: ~2500 ~9500 | ~3000 ~5000 The past 30 days have been very spiky. Not just a little, but very. The previous timeframe was very regular. Old.reddit... yea, it doesn't have the numbers at all, though I'll note that most people using the sub appear to be people browsing on their phone as even new.reddit isn't that much higher than old.reddit stats. I'm gonna say though, that for a sub that is for "regular people" - the most prolific users aren't 3rd party apps or old.reddit. At least not with with the people who browse this sub. Now, for a tech oriented very low traffic sub... (and looking at its stats, it went way up during the strike since the high traffic ones closed from less than 500 page views to about 1500). Normally it gets a subscriber a day with 5 new subscribers being a significant growth... there were 55 new subscribers during the strike. Past 7 days | Previous 30 days Client Low High | Low High old.reddit: ~25 ~75 | ~10 ~60 new.reddit: ~400 ~600 | ~75 ~475 Mobile web: ~150 ~250 | ~30 ~150 Android client: ~125 ~350 | ~25 ~100 iOS client: ~400 ~700 | ~25 ~250 Total: ~1000 ~1500 | ~175 ~1000 New.reddit seems to be the preferred client there, though its such a small sample that its difficult to say much. The API appears/is believed to to show up under mobile web as the bucket - along with people still using the mobile web client. The page served to a browser pretending to be an iPhone is doing calls against the newish gql.reddit.com APIs.
    - Macha 3y ago
      > the API appears/is believed to to show up under mobile web as the bucket - along with people still using the mobile web client. The page served to a browser pretending to be an iPhone is doing calls against the newish gql.reddit.com APIs. My understanding is that 3P apps used to be their own explicitly tracked category with a android/iOS split but then get mixed into the regular android/iOS categories with the first party client.
      - shagie 3y ago
        That changed a few months ago with the 'insights' replacing the 'traffic'. https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/11k9rv0/announcing_mod_insights_a_new_data_tool_for_mod/ https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/11k9rv0/announcing...
  - guraf 3y ago
    > third-party apps users (and old.reddit's[1] ones) also tend to be the most prolific users Can you give a source for that? I see this claim repeated but upon examination it seems to be a complete lie. Happy to be proven wrong.
    - littlestymaar 3y ago
      My wording is backward actually, what I meant is that third-pary apps users are a much more active user base than the average joe, not that the most prolific are necessarily on third-party apps.
  - dzsekijo 3y ago
    'i.reddit' is still available by appending '.i' to the url

> The vast majority don't care and will continue using Reddit. You forget the third category of people, the ones who'll just mostly stop using Reddit without seeking a 1-to-1 alternative.

satvikpendem 3y ago

That's also a small minority of people, they'd have to care about third party apps which are already a minority and also walk away from using the site, which can be hard if you already use it heavily, which it's likely that third party users do so. For example, I've been using third party apps for years but I downloaded the official app because I honestly don't care about the client I use for a particular site.

littlestymaar 3y ago
Time will tell, but third-party apps users (and old.reddit's[1] ones) also tend to be the most prolific users, and it's the posters and admin that run the show. [1]: they've already removed i.reddit earlier this year, I don't expect old.reddit to make it to 2024.
- shagie 3y ago
  From a sub with reasonable traffic non-tech sub that I moderate... Normally I have ~75 new subscribers per day and less than 5 unsubscribes per day. Just prior to the strike, the subscribers dropped to ~35. At the start of the strike, unsubscribes went up to ~10 while new subscribers went up to ~100. During the strike, the number of new subscribers went up to ~175. Other subs with a similar topics (and the big one) had gone private during that time. I'm back to ~75 new subscribers per day. As to old vs other... page views per day for the past 30 days (very spiky) and the previous 30 days Past 30 days | Previous 30 days Client Low High | Low High old.reddit: ~35 ~100 | ~25 ~75 new.reddit: ~200 ~900 | ~200 ~400 Mobile web: ~100 ~300 | ~100 ~150 Android client: ~1000 ~2000 | ~1000 ~1500 iOS client: ~2000 ~6000 | ~2000 ~3000 Total: ~2500 ~9500 | ~3000 ~5000 The past 30 days have been very spiky. Not just a little, but very. The previous timeframe was very regular. Old.reddit... yea, it doesn't have the numbers at all, though I'll note that most people using the sub appear to be people browsing on their phone as even new.reddit isn't that much higher than old.reddit stats. I'm gonna say though, that for a sub that is for "regular people" - the most prolific users aren't 3rd party apps or old.reddit. At least not with with the people who browse this sub. Now, for a tech oriented very low traffic sub... (and looking at its stats, it went way up during the strike since the high traffic ones closed from less than 500 page views to about 1500). Normally it gets a subscriber a day with 5 new subscribers being a significant growth... there were 55 new subscribers during the strike. Past 7 days | Previous 30 days Client Low High | Low High old.reddit: ~25 ~75 | ~10 ~60 new.reddit: ~400 ~600 | ~75 ~475 Mobile web: ~150 ~250 | ~30 ~150 Android client: ~125 ~350 | ~25 ~100 iOS client: ~400 ~700 | ~25 ~250 Total: ~1000 ~1500 | ~175 ~1000 New.reddit seems to be the preferred client there, though its such a small sample that its difficult to say much. The API appears/is believed to to show up under mobile web as the bucket - along with people still using the mobile web client. The page served to a browser pretending to be an iPhone is doing calls against the newish gql.reddit.com APIs.
  - Macha 3y ago
    > the API appears/is believed to to show up under mobile web as the bucket - along with people still using the mobile web client. The page served to a browser pretending to be an iPhone is doing calls against the newish gql.reddit.com APIs. My understanding is that 3P apps used to be their own explicitly tracked category with a android/iOS split but then get mixed into the regular android/iOS categories with the first party client.
    - shagie 3y ago
      That changed a few months ago with the 'insights' replacing the 'traffic'. https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/11k9rv0/announcing_mod_insights_a_new_data_tool_for_mod/ https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/11k9rv0/announcing...
- guraf 3y ago
  > third-party apps users (and old.reddit's[1] ones) also tend to be the most prolific users Can you give a source for that? I see this claim repeated but upon examination it seems to be a complete lie. Happy to be proven wrong.
  - littlestymaar 3y ago
    My wording is backward actually, what I meant is that third-pary apps users are a much more active user base than the average joe, not that the most prolific are necessarily on third-party apps.
- dzsekijo 3y ago
  'i.reddit' is still available by appending '.i' to the url