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Why does it work in other countries then?

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Master_Odin 3y ago
Because other countries are not so filled with temporarily embarrassed millionaires as the US and they need to maintain the status quo in case they ever accidentally stumble back into "their" wealth.
refurb 3y ago
Does what work? The US has one of the highest median wages in the world.
- t-writescode 3y ago
  Median wage does not mean living wage. The living wage in other countries is quite a lot lower. Their money goes far further. Just because we have big starting number doesn't mean we can thrive with big starting number.
  - refurb 3y ago
    Please define living wage then.
    - t-writescode 3y ago
      Sufficient earnings to be able to afford housing, food, the necessities for modern life including internet and cell service, health care in countries where it’s not part of your taxes, and a standard emergency in your country (in the US, this would be a medical emergency, like a broken bone) as well as some on top for enjoying your life a bit.
      - refurb 3y ago
        What kind of housing? Would a 1 room apartment shared with another adult suffice? What kind of food? Is 1MB internet ok? A flip phone? And what kind of healthcare? Cutting edge healthcare or the basics? “Living wage” means nothing without answering those questions?
        t-writescode 3y ago
        housing: * sufficient for a single parent food: * the federal government has established projected costs of food per person healthcare: * I believe that all healthcare should be covered, so that. If not that, then an HSA with enough additional money added to their salary to cover the maximum out-of-pocket expenses Internet: * average internet available in the area with a minimum of "sufficient to live-stream video footage from one's house for as many residents as live in that place", so parent and child can both join Zoom meetings for whatever reason. The tactic you're performing here is called "Sea lioning" and it's a bad-faith tactic; but I'll answer the questions just in case you didn't know what I meant by what I said.
        refurb 3y ago
        housing: sufficient for a single parent A single parent could share a 1 bedroom apartment with another single parent. That's ok? I believe that all healthcare should be covered No country covers all healthcare. The tactic you're performing here is called "Sea lioning" and it's a bad-faith tactic; but I'll answer the questions just in case you didn't know what I meant by what I said. You didn't answer the questions at all. Saying "it needs to be sufficient" is not an answer. And calling it "sealioning" doesn't change that.
        PlunderBunny 3y ago
        The living wage movement has organisations that attempt to define a living wage. See, for example, https://www.livingwage.org.nz/about https://www.livingwage.org.nz/about in my own country. They pressure companies into adopting a living wage, and have been reasonably successful. You seem to be arguing that because things can't be perfect or perfectly defined, that the entire idea is invalid.

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Because other countries are not so filled with temporarily embarrassed millionaires as the US and they need to maintain the status quo in case they ever accidentally stumble back into "their" wealth.

refurb 3y ago

Does what work? The US has one of the highest median wages in the world.

t-writescode 3y ago
Median wage does not mean living wage. The living wage in other countries is quite a lot lower. Their money goes far further. Just because we have big starting number doesn't mean we can thrive with big starting number.
- refurb 3y ago
  Please define living wage then.
  - t-writescode 3y ago
    Sufficient earnings to be able to afford housing, food, the necessities for modern life including internet and cell service, health care in countries where it’s not part of your taxes, and a standard emergency in your country (in the US, this would be a medical emergency, like a broken bone) as well as some on top for enjoying your life a bit.
    - refurb 3y ago
      What kind of housing? Would a 1 room apartment shared with another adult suffice? What kind of food? Is 1MB internet ok? A flip phone? And what kind of healthcare? Cutting edge healthcare or the basics? “Living wage” means nothing without answering those questions?
      - t-writescode 3y ago
        housing: * sufficient for a single parent food: * the federal government has established projected costs of food per person healthcare: * I believe that all healthcare should be covered, so that. If not that, then an HSA with enough additional money added to their salary to cover the maximum out-of-pocket expenses Internet: * average internet available in the area with a minimum of "sufficient to live-stream video footage from one's house for as many residents as live in that place", so parent and child can both join Zoom meetings for whatever reason. The tactic you're performing here is called "Sea lioning" and it's a bad-faith tactic; but I'll answer the questions just in case you didn't know what I meant by what I said.
        refurb 3y ago
        housing: sufficient for a single parent A single parent could share a 1 bedroom apartment with another single parent. That's ok? I believe that all healthcare should be covered No country covers all healthcare. The tactic you're performing here is called "Sea lioning" and it's a bad-faith tactic; but I'll answer the questions just in case you didn't know what I meant by what I said. You didn't answer the questions at all. Saying "it needs to be sufficient" is not an answer. And calling it "sealioning" doesn't change that.
        PlunderBunny 3y ago
        The living wage movement has organisations that attempt to define a living wage. See, for example, https://www.livingwage.org.nz/about https://www.livingwage.org.nz/about in my own country. They pressure companies into adopting a living wage, and have been reasonably successful. You seem to be arguing that because things can't be perfect or perfectly defined, that the entire idea is invalid.