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I agree with your last line, but it’s not just Destin. It’s all of YouTube. The incentive system is driving creators to create longer videos filled with an ins

I agree with your last line, but it’s not just Destin. It’s all of YouTube. The incentive system is driving creators to create longer videos filled with an insane amount of filler content.

londons_explore 3y ago
I recommend everyone to install the "sponsorblock" youtube addin. It makes long videos much shorter by cutting out all the filler content (~30% of most videos), and has an option to skip just to the highlight of the video. For this video, it skips you to 6:52, and within 1 minute you have learned that hydrolysis directly doesn't work due to the salt in salt water, it produces chlorine, and you need to do reverse osmosis first then electrolysis. It isn't AI... it's just other humans who have tagged and marked the videos - and they have done a pretty good job IMO.
- craigds 3y ago
  I find myself bothering to click through to YT so rarely (< once/month) it's not really worth installing an addon for this, but it sounds really useful for YT regulars. What I'd love (and even pay money for) would be the same thing for Spotify podcasts - especially for kids stories which are a constant feature of my car journeys at the moment. 5 minutes of junk surrounding 4 minutes of actual story is madness. (I already have Spotify Premium - I'm not talking about ads; the actual content of podcasts is mostly fluff, and it's almost as bad as YT)
numpad0 3y ago
FWIW, I often end up watching more Doug Demuro and Ian McCollum videos than Destin/SmarterEveryDay. To me, that’s widespread, but not all of YouTube.
- SkyPuncher 3y ago
  Even Doug is kind of creeping into that high 20 minute zone. That being said, there’s not really a lot of filler in hit stuff.
  - netsharc 3y ago
    Oh really? It feels like his format is "I'm going to show you something quirky. Look at this quirky thing. It is so quirky! Imagine designing this quirky thing.", so something that should take 10 seconds takes 50 seconds. For example here's him telling his viewers, who are most certainly car enthusiasts, what a lift button does: https://youtu.be/BGUqC7QbUDo?t=548 https://youtu.be/BGUqC7QbUDo?t=548
    - SkyPuncher 3y ago
      Maybe I’ve just watched too much of him :P I generally think he does a good job of keeping things moving, with little filler. It just seems that he always ends up around that 25 minute mark.
- sbierwagen 3y ago
  My interest in the series of Dustin sub videos was diminished by him saying in the first video that for "safety and security reasons" he wasn't going to show anything in the reactor or engine sections... then put on screen a graphic that showed he wasn't going to visit fully half the boat! I immediately knew this was just going to be a plumbing tour and checked out. Little bit funny to call it a tour of a nuclear submarine but skip anything nuclear.
  - sitzkrieg 3y ago
    of course. that would never fly
  - George83728 3y ago
    I mean... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/20/us-navy-sailor-jailed-for-taking-photos-of-classified-areas-of-nuclear-submarine https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/20/us-navy-sail... > Kristian Saucier, of Arlington, Vermont, appeared in federal court in Bridgeport, where a judge also ordered him to serve six months of home confinement with electronic monitoring during a three-year period of supervised release after the prison time. He pleaded guilty in May to unauthorized detention of defense information and had faced five to six years in prison under federal sentencing guidelines. > Saucier admitted to taking six photos of classified areas inside the USS Alexandria in 2009 when it was in Groton and he was a 22-year-old machinist mate on the submarine. The photos showed the nuclear reactor compartment, the auxiliary steam propulsion panel and the maneuvering compartment, prosecutors said. > Saucier took the photos knowing they were classified, but did so only to be able to show his family and future children what he did while he was in the Navy, his lawyers said. He denied sharing the photos with any unauthorized recipient.
    - sbierwagen 3y ago
      This just illustrates the DoD's hysterical obsession with secrecy. The US, UK, Russia, France, China and India have nuclear submarines. Brazil is building a nuclear submarine. Australia is buying nuclear submarines. In 1960 you had a good argument for classifying reactors, but it's ridiculous to pretend the US still has a nuclear monopoly sixty years later. This is declining-empire stuff, a fading power trying to keep up a pretense that has long since grown thin.
Twirrim 3y ago
To the contrary, the YouTube algorithm strongly discourages it. Longer videos are much less likely to appear in the suggested feed. The degree to which varies, but YouTubers are feeling very heavily forced towards < 5 minute content.
- entropie 3y ago
  I really think that depends. I have almost only videos 10+ minutes on my homepage and in my recommendations because I almost only watch longer videos. https://i.imgur.com/7T5tUGV.png https://i.imgur.com/7T5tUGV.png
- SkyPuncher 3y ago
  I haven’t had that experience at all. Though, I rarely use “the algorithm”. I basically only watch people I’m subscribed to (which I rarely find via YouTube). Those videos are getting increasingly longer because the payouts are higher.
- wmf 3y ago
  Isn't there a threshold (10 minutes?) where you get twice as many ads and thus people try to make their videos at least that long?

I agree with your last line, but it’s not just Destin. It’s all of YouTube. The incentive system is driving creators to create longer videos filled with an insane amount of filler content.

londons_explore 3y ago

I recommend everyone to install the "sponsorblock" youtube addin. It makes long videos much shorter by cutting out all the filler content (~30% of most videos), and has an option to skip just to the highlight of the video. For this video, it skips you to 6:52, and within 1 minute you have learned that hydrolysis directly doesn't work due to the salt in salt water, it produces chlorine, and you need to do reverse osmosis first then electrolysis. It isn't AI... it's just other humans who have tagged and marked the videos - and they have done a pretty good job IMO.

craigds 3y ago
I find myself bothering to click through to YT so rarely (< once/month) it's not really worth installing an addon for this, but it sounds really useful for YT regulars. What I'd love (and even pay money for) would be the same thing for Spotify podcasts - especially for kids stories which are a constant feature of my car journeys at the moment. 5 minutes of junk surrounding 4 minutes of actual story is madness. (I already have Spotify Premium - I'm not talking about ads; the actual content of podcasts is mostly fluff, and it's almost as bad as YT)

numpad0 3y ago

FWIW, I often end up watching more Doug Demuro and Ian McCollum videos than Destin/SmarterEveryDay. To me, that’s widespread, but not all of YouTube.

SkyPuncher 3y ago
Even Doug is kind of creeping into that high 20 minute zone. That being said, there’s not really a lot of filler in hit stuff.
- netsharc 3y ago
  Oh really? It feels like his format is "I'm going to show you something quirky. Look at this quirky thing. It is so quirky! Imagine designing this quirky thing.", so something that should take 10 seconds takes 50 seconds. For example here's him telling his viewers, who are most certainly car enthusiasts, what a lift button does: https://youtu.be/BGUqC7QbUDo?t=548 https://youtu.be/BGUqC7QbUDo?t=548
  - SkyPuncher 3y ago
    Maybe I’ve just watched too much of him :P I generally think he does a good job of keeping things moving, with little filler. It just seems that he always ends up around that 25 minute mark.
sbierwagen 3y ago
My interest in the series of Dustin sub videos was diminished by him saying in the first video that for "safety and security reasons" he wasn't going to show anything in the reactor or engine sections... then put on screen a graphic that showed he wasn't going to visit fully half the boat! I immediately knew this was just going to be a plumbing tour and checked out. Little bit funny to call it a tour of a nuclear submarine but skip anything nuclear.
- sitzkrieg 3y ago
  of course. that would never fly
- George83728 3y ago
  I mean... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/20/us-navy-sailor-jailed-for-taking-photos-of-classified-areas-of-nuclear-submarine https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/20/us-navy-sail... > Kristian Saucier, of Arlington, Vermont, appeared in federal court in Bridgeport, where a judge also ordered him to serve six months of home confinement with electronic monitoring during a three-year period of supervised release after the prison time. He pleaded guilty in May to unauthorized detention of defense information and had faced five to six years in prison under federal sentencing guidelines. > Saucier admitted to taking six photos of classified areas inside the USS Alexandria in 2009 when it was in Groton and he was a 22-year-old machinist mate on the submarine. The photos showed the nuclear reactor compartment, the auxiliary steam propulsion panel and the maneuvering compartment, prosecutors said. > Saucier took the photos knowing they were classified, but did so only to be able to show his family and future children what he did while he was in the Navy, his lawyers said. He denied sharing the photos with any unauthorized recipient.
  - sbierwagen 3y ago
    This just illustrates the DoD's hysterical obsession with secrecy. The US, UK, Russia, France, China and India have nuclear submarines. Brazil is building a nuclear submarine. Australia is buying nuclear submarines. In 1960 you had a good argument for classifying reactors, but it's ridiculous to pretend the US still has a nuclear monopoly sixty years later. This is declining-empire stuff, a fading power trying to keep up a pretense that has long since grown thin.

Twirrim 3y ago

To the contrary, the YouTube algorithm strongly discourages it. Longer videos are much less likely to appear in the suggested feed. The degree to which varies, but YouTubers are feeling very heavily forced towards < 5 minute content.

entropie 3y ago
I really think that depends. I have almost only videos 10+ minutes on my homepage and in my recommendations because I almost only watch longer videos. https://i.imgur.com/7T5tUGV.png https://i.imgur.com/7T5tUGV.png
SkyPuncher 3y ago
I haven’t had that experience at all. Though, I rarely use “the algorithm”. I basically only watch people I’m subscribed to (which I rarely find via YouTube). Those videos are getting increasingly longer because the payouts are higher.
wmf 3y ago
Isn't there a threshold (10 minutes?) where you get twice as many ads and thus people try to make their videos at least that long?