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If you looking into Chinese culture [1][2], it is astonishingly autocratic. Creativity is frowned on, and criticizing superiors is nearly impossible. There

If you looking into Chinese culture [1][2], it is astonishingly autocratic. Creativity is frowned on, and criticizing superiors is nearly impossible. There is a very strong "do what is asked, no questions" attitude. Business has very strong "nothing matters once I have your money" policy. I took South East Asian history in college, and Chinese culture is abundantly self-sabotaging. It was morbidly fascinating, which is why I took several courses on it. [1] https://www.youtube.com/@serpentza https://www.youtube.com/@serpentza [2] https://www.youtube.com/@laowhy86 https://www.youtube.com/@laowhy86

codedokode 3y ago
> Business has very strong "nothing matters once I have your money" policy. Western business now has adopted "nothing matters once I got your personal data" policy though. It seems that "nothing matters" policy is not restricted to Asia.
- philistine 3y ago
  Opening up to China has not made that country more Western, it could be argued it has made the world more Chinese.
  - fnimick 3y ago
    See also: VCs talking glowingly about how "productive" 996 makes Chinese companies and how US employees should be working similar hours to keep up. Greed knows no national boundaries, and the societal norms that kept it somewhat under control in the West are being rapidly eroded.
  - throwaway2037 3y ago
    I cringe when I see the term "Western" vis-a-vis countries in East Asia. How does it sound if we say "modern"? That sounds better to me. Why? Then, it includes Korea, Japan, and Taiwan -- all very modern, but not at all "Western".
    - philistine 3y ago
      I agree with your sentiment, but the collective delusion to open up to China was not an attempt to make it more modern. It truly was an attempt to westernize it. In the colonial, racist sense. The Allied powers wanted to westernize Japan and Korea as well after the second world war.

codedokode 3y ago

> Business has very strong "nothing matters once I have your money" policy. Western business now has adopted "nothing matters once I got your personal data" policy though. It seems that "nothing matters" policy is not restricted to Asia.

philistine 3y ago
Opening up to China has not made that country more Western, it could be argued it has made the world more Chinese.
- fnimick 3y ago
  See also: VCs talking glowingly about how "productive" 996 makes Chinese companies and how US employees should be working similar hours to keep up. Greed knows no national boundaries, and the societal norms that kept it somewhat under control in the West are being rapidly eroded.
- throwaway2037 3y ago
  I cringe when I see the term "Western" vis-a-vis countries in East Asia. How does it sound if we say "modern"? That sounds better to me. Why? Then, it includes Korea, Japan, and Taiwan -- all very modern, but not at all "Western".
  - philistine 3y ago
    I agree with your sentiment, but the collective delusion to open up to China was not an attempt to make it more modern. It truly was an attempt to westernize it. In the colonial, racist sense. The Allied powers wanted to westernize Japan and Korea as well after the second world war.