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Works by default

16bitvoid 3y ago
Yes, but it's not very consistent. For example, Safari will not maximize if you double click the title bar. It'll just maximize vertically.
- wrs 3y ago
  "Maximize" on MacOS means "go to the largest useful size", not "fill the screen". It's application and context dependent. ("Fill the screen" is a separate mode which the top comment is complaining about, justifiably IMO.)
  - lloeki 3y ago
    That's because it's not Maximize, it's Zoom, which uses content hints to resize the window while not wasting space with useless empty space inside the window, thus still allowing one to see other windows. When there's no content size hint it falls back to what Windows and Linux call Maximize, which is more like a windowed fullscreen mode.
    - pxc 3y ago
      This probably reflects my not 'coming from' macOS or idiomatic ways of working in it, but I basically never hit 'maximize' on a window because I want to see more of whatever happens to be in the window. I hit 'maximize' because I want to use an app's internal features (tabs, split panes) to manage multiple app-specific contents/views instead of external window management. I'm never like > Ah, just let me resize my browser window so that this image will fit within it!
      - lloeki 3y ago
        I understand that. IMHO macOS should have both Maximize and Zoom as they do different things and serve different use cases (Apple seems to think that if you want Maximize you actually want fullscreen, which kind of makes sense in a way, except not, e.g when one wants to still be desktopish and rely on cmd tab or cmd backtick, and because the fullscreen/tiling/spaces is crappily implemented for power users) Now, in practice, Zoom is really nice when it works (I'm using it all the time with Finder+ windows), the problem is that it takes a single app not providing the content size hint for it to break and make it confusing. And then a vicious circle starts where more apps don't care about what it's supposed to do, and before you know it Zoom is mostly falling back to being Maximize most of the time, and people wonder why when it's doing the original Zoom thing it behaves differently and think it's weird and broken (which is perfectly understandable) In a way Apple either did not embrace the winlin paradigm enough (e.g having a proper Maximize alongside Zoom + having an option for per window cmd tab) or they did not stick to their guns enough (enforcing Zoom to be correct + having a worthy fullscreen/tiling implementation) and we're left with a shitty compromise. + A very similar case that ties into this is how the Finder went from being fully spatial to a half-spatial half-global compromise.

Works by default

Yes, but it's not very consistent. For example, Safari will not maximize if you double click the title bar. It'll just maximize vertically.

wrs 3y ago
"Maximize" on MacOS means "go to the largest useful size", not "fill the screen". It's application and context dependent. ("Fill the screen" is a separate mode which the top comment is complaining about, justifiably IMO.)
- lloeki 3y ago
  That's because it's not Maximize, it's Zoom, which uses content hints to resize the window while not wasting space with useless empty space inside the window, thus still allowing one to see other windows. When there's no content size hint it falls back to what Windows and Linux call Maximize, which is more like a windowed fullscreen mode.
  - pxc 3y ago
    This probably reflects my not 'coming from' macOS or idiomatic ways of working in it, but I basically never hit 'maximize' on a window because I want to see more of whatever happens to be in the window. I hit 'maximize' because I want to use an app's internal features (tabs, split panes) to manage multiple app-specific contents/views instead of external window management. I'm never like > Ah, just let me resize my browser window so that this image will fit within it!
    - lloeki 3y ago
      I understand that. IMHO macOS should have both Maximize and Zoom as they do different things and serve different use cases (Apple seems to think that if you want Maximize you actually want fullscreen, which kind of makes sense in a way, except not, e.g when one wants to still be desktopish and rely on cmd tab or cmd backtick, and because the fullscreen/tiling/spaces is crappily implemented for power users) Now, in practice, Zoom is really nice when it works (I'm using it all the time with Finder+ windows), the problem is that it takes a single app not providing the content size hint for it to break and make it confusing. And then a vicious circle starts where more apps don't care about what it's supposed to do, and before you know it Zoom is mostly falling back to being Maximize most of the time, and people wonder why when it's doing the original Zoom thing it behaves differently and think it's weird and broken (which is perfectly understandable) In a way Apple either did not embrace the winlin paradigm enough (e.g having a proper Maximize alongside Zoom + having an option for per window cmd tab) or they did not stick to their guns enough (enforcing Zoom to be correct + having a worthy fullscreen/tiling implementation) and we're left with a shitty compromise. + A very similar case that ties into this is how the Finder went from being fully spatial to a half-spatial half-global compromise.