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Your comment is full of falsehoods. The Ally's CPU is designed for handheld gaming, not laptops, and the TDP target is 9-30W, not 15-45W. Furthermore AMD didn't

Your comment is full of falsehoods. The Ally's CPU is designed for handheld gaming, not laptops, and the TDP target is 9-30W, not 15-45W. Furthermore AMD didn't cancel any CPU line used by the deck, the Deck CPU was a one-off that was never available to anyone besides steam and evolved into the Z1 which is used in the Ally. https://www.amd.com/en/processors/ryzen-z1 https://www.amd.com/en/processors/ryzen-z1

brucethemoose2 3y ago
The ryzen z1 is based on the laptop phoenix silicon. Its tuned, but underneath it is the same die size on the same proccess with the same core/gpu config. Van Gogh (the steam deck chip) was originally supposed to be in more products, and showed up in multiple leaks with details that were confirmed later: https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-mobile-apus-for-2021-2022-detailed-first-navi2-igpu-coming-with-vangogh https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-mobile-apus-for-2021-2022-de... The same leaks specified a van gogh successor as well. What happened afterwards is speculation, but it seems logical to assume AMD canceled that line.
- CameronNemo 3y ago
  Okay I guess with that extra context your comment makes more sense. But you are still off on the tdp, unless you dispute AMDs numbers.
  - brucethemoose2 3y ago
    That kinda comes from my own experience with ROG laptops. Not sure about the Z1, but Asus's and AMD's "power saving" mode for renoir and cezzane was still too zealous. They clocked too high under light loads and burned lots of power, in spite of their advertised power savings. In addition, for gaming workloads, they didn't manually underclock to 6W or even 9W very well. They just burned too much power to split between 8 cores, the GPU and the rest of SoC, while the Deck chip (of the same generation) seems quite happy under heavy load at 6W. Hence, being such a big chip, I am skeptical the Z1 likes to run at 6-9W.

brucethemoose2 3y ago

The ryzen z1 is based on the laptop phoenix silicon. Its tuned, but underneath it is the same die size on the same proccess with the same core/gpu config. Van Gogh (the steam deck chip) was originally supposed to be in more products, and showed up in multiple leaks with details that were confirmed later: https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-mobile-apus-for-2021-2022-detailed-first-navi2-igpu-coming-with-vangogh https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-mobile-apus-for-2021-2022-de... The same leaks specified a van gogh successor as well. What happened afterwards is speculation, but it seems logical to assume AMD canceled that line.

CameronNemo 3y ago
Okay I guess with that extra context your comment makes more sense. But you are still off on the tdp, unless you dispute AMDs numbers.
- brucethemoose2 3y ago
  That kinda comes from my own experience with ROG laptops. Not sure about the Z1, but Asus's and AMD's "power saving" mode for renoir and cezzane was still too zealous. They clocked too high under light loads and burned lots of power, in spite of their advertised power savings. In addition, for gaming workloads, they didn't manually underclock to 6W or even 9W very well. They just burned too much power to split between 8 cores, the GPU and the rest of SoC, while the Deck chip (of the same generation) seems quite happy under heavy load at 6W. Hence, being such a big chip, I am skeptical the Z1 likes to run at 6-9W.