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Michael Flynn has entered the chat. If you can, get past his ideology and that he was a Trump guy, the actual process of what happened to him and what he was c

Michael Flynn has entered the chat. If you can, get past his ideology and that he was a Trump guy, the actual process of what happened to him and what he was charged with is pretty crazy. He was very stupid for talking to agents without a lawyer. But, they went in and got him to lie about something that wasn’t a crime, and he didn’t actually do. Also on the front page of HN right now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36367147 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36367147

tptacek 3y ago
As a member of President Trump's transition team, Flynn made a pair of direct diplomatic requests to Russia's ambassador to the United States (Russia complied with both requests). Later, during an FBI counterintelligence investigation centering on Russia, Flynn lied twice about having had those diplomatic conversations at all. The case was later dropped because the entire overarching investigation (Crossfire Hurricane) --- which did not center on Flynn --- was dropped. Flynn is a cut-and-dried example of how 18 USC 1001 can make sense. He wasn't entrapped. He hung himself out to dry. It's a great example of the logic of this thread and the post: don't talk to federal agents, because if you're an idiot and try to bullshit your way past basic facts of their investigation, they'll convict you for it.
- SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
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  - vore 3y ago
    So... what is it?
  - mcny 3y ago
    I think this case is the prime example why lying to a federal agent ought to not be a crime at all. Why should I go to prison and have a felony if Michael Flynn doesn’t have to? If I have to go to prison, so does Michael Flynn.
    - jfengel 3y ago
      Michael Flynn has a friend with the power to pardon. You do not. Do not optimize the rules as if you and he were in the same class.
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HyperSane 3y ago
Michael Flynn is literally a traitor to the US.
- asylteltine 3y ago
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- SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
  You should read the Durham Report.
  - HyperSane 3y ago
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tptacek 3y ago

As a member of President Trump's transition team, Flynn made a pair of direct diplomatic requests to Russia's ambassador to the United States (Russia complied with both requests). Later, during an FBI counterintelligence investigation centering on Russia, Flynn lied twice about having had those diplomatic conversations at all. The case was later dropped because the entire overarching investigation (Crossfire Hurricane) --- which did not center on Flynn --- was dropped. Flynn is a cut-and-dried example of how 18 USC 1001 can make sense. He wasn't entrapped. He hung himself out to dry. It's a great example of the logic of this thread and the post: don't talk to federal agents, because if you're an idiot and try to bullshit your way past basic facts of their investigation, they'll convict you for it.

SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
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- vore 3y ago
  So... what is it?
- mcny 3y ago
  I think this case is the prime example why lying to a federal agent ought to not be a crime at all. Why should I go to prison and have a felony if Michael Flynn doesn’t have to? If I have to go to prison, so does Michael Flynn.
  - jfengel 3y ago
    Michael Flynn has a friend with the power to pardon. You do not. Do not optimize the rules as if you and he were in the same class.
- jackmott 3y ago
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HyperSane 3y ago

Michael Flynn is literally a traitor to the US.

asylteltine 3y ago
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SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
You should read the Durham Report.
- HyperSane 3y ago
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