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Giving someone a mind altering drug in order to manipulate their political beliefs is brainwashing and totally unethical. This guy forgot who he was.

stouset 3y ago
> The man… was enrolled in an MDMA study… which investigated whether the drug could increase the pleasantness of human touch. Second sentence of the article.
- redroyal 3y ago
  But that’s clearly the utility being proposed. It disturbs me that a few feet from the Berkeley campus there are now five dispensaries. This is where they’re going. Let’s “fix” the “broken” people. Yesterday you had to put a bullet in them but now we can have them whistling the village tune and paying their taxes with a 50c pill.
  - stouset 3y ago
    Yes, won’t somebody think of the poor white supremacists who… come to reevaluate their belief systems after having a few moments of chemically-increased empathy? The man didn’t forget who he was. Reading the article, it suddenly became painfully clear to him who he was, and he started to question why. I’m quite certain that weed and MDMA aren’t quite the woke mind-control agents you seem to believe they are.
    - redroyal 3y ago
      I’m sure they are and with a little tweaking and the right lighting they can almost certainly turn a liberal into a communist, or “have them see themselves more clearly and then rationally reevaluate their perspective”
      - stouset 3y ago
        Ok buddy
- HDThoreaun 3y ago
  > which investigated whether the drug could increase the pleasantness of human touch. Why would they need a study for this? Literally every single person who has taken MDMA can confirm that increases the pleasantness of human touch. What a waste.
  - stouset 3y ago
    Every single person who’s taken DMT can confirm they’ve spoken to elder gods and aliens. Maybe we should be okay with scientists confirming things “everyone” knows.
    - HDThoreaun 3y ago
      An experiment about whether DMT causes you to see gods and aliens would similar be a waste.
nielsbot 3y ago
You’re assuming the study was political. The article doesn’t say anything about manipulating political beliefs—Where did you get that from?
- fsckboy 3y ago
  if you're going to play that word game, where did he assume the study was political? here's what he said: Giving someone a mind altering drug in order to manipulate their political beliefs is brainwashing and totally unethical. This guy forgot who he was.
  - nielsbot 3y ago
    Does this sentence apply in general and not to the study? "Giving someone a mind altering drug in order to manipulate their political beliefs is brainwashing"

stouset 3y ago

> The man… was enrolled in an MDMA study… which investigated whether the drug could increase the pleasantness of human touch. Second sentence of the article.

redroyal 3y ago
But that’s clearly the utility being proposed. It disturbs me that a few feet from the Berkeley campus there are now five dispensaries. This is where they’re going. Let’s “fix” the “broken” people. Yesterday you had to put a bullet in them but now we can have them whistling the village tune and paying their taxes with a 50c pill.
- stouset 3y ago
  Yes, won’t somebody think of the poor white supremacists who… come to reevaluate their belief systems after having a few moments of chemically-increased empathy? The man didn’t forget who he was. Reading the article, it suddenly became painfully clear to him who he was, and he started to question why. I’m quite certain that weed and MDMA aren’t quite the woke mind-control agents you seem to believe they are.
  - redroyal 3y ago
    I’m sure they are and with a little tweaking and the right lighting they can almost certainly turn a liberal into a communist, or “have them see themselves more clearly and then rationally reevaluate their perspective”
    - stouset 3y ago
      Ok buddy
HDThoreaun 3y ago
> which investigated whether the drug could increase the pleasantness of human touch. Why would they need a study for this? Literally every single person who has taken MDMA can confirm that increases the pleasantness of human touch. What a waste.
- stouset 3y ago
  Every single person who’s taken DMT can confirm they’ve spoken to elder gods and aliens. Maybe we should be okay with scientists confirming things “everyone” knows.
  - HDThoreaun 3y ago
    An experiment about whether DMT causes you to see gods and aliens would similar be a waste.

nielsbot 3y ago

You’re assuming the study was political. The article doesn’t say anything about manipulating political beliefs—Where did you get that from?

fsckboy 3y ago
if you're going to play that word game, where did he assume the study was political? here's what he said: Giving someone a mind altering drug in order to manipulate their political beliefs is brainwashing and totally unethical. This guy forgot who he was.
- nielsbot 3y ago
  Does this sentence apply in general and not to the study? "Giving someone a mind altering drug in order to manipulate their political beliefs is brainwashing"