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Yes, it’s unfair to compare people who want expel nonwhite people from the country to people who want to treat nonwhite people as not-people, because we know th

Yes, it’s unfair to compare people who want expel nonwhite people from the country to people who want to treat nonwhite people as not-people, because we know those groups don’t overlap at all.

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JumpCrisscross 3y ago
I’ve heard racist nationalists express genuine praise for other nations, so long as they’re their own. The internal dialogue might be that “they” are sending their worst “here” to dress and speak and act like “us.”
- xracy 3y ago
  Yeah, definitely real "separate but equal" types...
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    I have a mixed heritage that can physically resemble anyone between Italy and India, as well as Central America. It’s wild to see dispositions shift as folks learn my “real” background (Germanic, technically though not precisely Austrian-Swiss, and Indian). The former get skewered for it, but it’s just as prevalent in the East.
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chiefalchemist 3y ago
It's fair. What's unfair is to use the wrong words, which create the wrong worlds. When your pet barks, do you call it cat? Humans are blessed with a higher level of communication, there's no reason to abuse it. There's no good reason to be lazy. There's no good reason to take pride in negligence. Step up. Lean in. Or for the sake of truth and justice, just shut up*. We've got enough noise to have to contend with fools who effectively don't know green from yellow. * Not you, but the collective of people who believe Orwellian newspeak-y speak it ok.
- Finnucane 3y ago
  They’re bloody racists, so fuck them.
  - chiefalchemist 3y ago
    The only people(s) who get fucked by wrong, lazy, and ambiguous communication is the sender and the receiver. That is, using the wrong words gives the subject matter a free pass. How can something be addressed and resolved when there's deception and ambiguity? p.s. Hating haters isn't exactly clean and consistent either. But that's another chat for another day.

Yes, it’s unfair to compare people who want expel nonwhite people from the country to people who want to treat nonwhite people as not-people, because we know those groups don’t overlap at all.

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JumpCrisscross 3y ago

I’ve heard racist nationalists express genuine praise for other nations, so long as they’re their own. The internal dialogue might be that “they” are sending their worst “here” to dress and speak and act like “us.”

xracy 3y ago
Yeah, definitely real "separate but equal" types...
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  I have a mixed heritage that can physically resemble anyone between Italy and India, as well as Central America. It’s wild to see dispositions shift as folks learn my “real” background (Germanic, technically though not precisely Austrian-Swiss, and Indian). The former get skewered for it, but it’s just as prevalent in the East.

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chiefalchemist 3y ago

It's fair. What's unfair is to use the wrong words, which create the wrong worlds. When your pet barks, do you call it cat? Humans are blessed with a higher level of communication, there's no reason to abuse it. There's no good reason to be lazy. There's no good reason to take pride in negligence. Step up. Lean in. Or for the sake of truth and justice, just shut up*. We've got enough noise to have to contend with fools who effectively don't know green from yellow. * Not you, but the collective of people who believe Orwellian newspeak-y speak it ok.

Finnucane 3y ago
They’re bloody racists, so fuck them.
- chiefalchemist 3y ago
  The only people(s) who get fucked by wrong, lazy, and ambiguous communication is the sender and the receiver. That is, using the wrong words gives the subject matter a free pass. How can something be addressed and resolved when there's deception and ambiguity? p.s. Hating haters isn't exactly clean and consistent either. But that's another chat for another day.