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That is why I asked for some way to test for what GP complained about, and the only answer I got was "there is no way". Do you have a way to design a study so t

by Timon3 3y ago

That is why I asked for some way to test for what GP complained about, and the only answer I got was "there is no way". Do you have a way to design a study so the complaint "well, the participants could be faking it" isn't valid? I'm legitimately asking, so far all I've gotten was "no way".

ang_cire 3y ago
Not sure if I replied to you further up, or someone else, but in any scientific study you should be attempting to minimize the impact of the observation method used on the outcome of the data, and when it comes to answering questions truthfully, someone being aware that they are participating in a study does not do that at all. They should be using data from real-world situations in which people did not have an incentive to lie. Problem is, those are hard to find, and most studies are done in order for the researchers to get paid so they can pay rent and buy food. There is far more incentive to conduct shoddy research in psychology (since as a corrolary to being hard to produce good evidence for, it's hard to produce good evidence against, which non-reproducability is often not treated as), than there is to only proceed with the studies you actually have sufficient known-good data to work with. We have spent billions of dollars on single technology projects in order to answer questions about physics, like the LHC, because without those we often cannot actually get the data needed to answer certain questions. Nothing equivalent is done in social psychology. There are no massive, multi-use infrastructures being built to engage with it. While that is not the fault of social scientists, but of the devaluation of their field by the society around them, it still does mean they often do not have the necessary tools to do their jobs correctly.

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That is why I asked for some way to test for what GP complained about, and the only answer I got was "there is no way". Do you have a way to design a study so t

by Timon3 3y ago

ang_cire 3y ago
Not sure if I replied to you further up, or someone else, but in any scientific study you should be attempting to minimize the impact of the observation method used on the outcome of the data, and when it comes to answering questions truthfully, someone being aware that they are participating in a study does not do that at all. They should be using data from real-world situations in which people did not have an incentive to lie. Problem is, those are hard to find, and most studies are done in order for the researchers to get paid so they can pay rent and buy food. There is far more incentive to conduct shoddy research in psychology (since as a corrolary to being hard to produce good evidence for, it's hard to produce good evidence against, which non-reproducability is often not treated as), than there is to only proceed with the studies you actually have sufficient known-good data to work with. We have spent billions of dollars on single technology projects in order to answer questions about physics, like the LHC, because without those we often cannot actually get the data needed to answer certain questions. Nothing equivalent is done in social psychology. There are no massive, multi-use infrastructures being built to engage with it. While that is not the fault of social scientists, but of the devaluation of their field by the society around them, it still does mean they often do not have the necessary tools to do their jobs correctly.