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Google Cloud Domains is to be fully deprecated as part of Google Domains sale
- paxys 3y agoI remember when the news broke a few days ago people were going "this is only the consumer product, Google Cloud won't be affected, Google is very serious about it". Any bets on how long until Google Cloud is fully deprecated? If I was a customer I'd be very nervous right about now.
- Mountain_Skies 3y agoGoogle is more and more defined by how willing they are to help their own bottom line short-term by harming their customers. While it is more and more an industry trend, Google is a leader in kneecapping those foolish enough to have a dependency on it.
- _fat_santa 3y ago> this is only the consumer product, Google Cloud won't be affected, Google is very serious about it Actions speak louder than words.
- hedora 3y agoFun fact: 100% of decision makers at companies are consumers. I’m still wary of trusting aws. They discontinued cloud drive, and blocked existing users’ backup setups. (The current service of that name does not support the same things the old service did.)
- x86x87 3y agoLookup how many of AWS services were discontinued and are no longer around. Go ahead.
- duskwuff 3y agoAWS SimpleDB has been effectively deprecated for 10+ years and is still available.
- anyoneamous 3y agoShow me a customer still running SimpleDB and I'll show you an account manager who is getting defenestrated on a weekly basis. Then again, that customer is probably a big spender, so the account manager can rest his damaged limbs on piles of money.
- x86x87 3y agoLol. You found the one service that was deprecated. Would it shock you to learn that SDB is still running and working for a handful of customers?
- duskwuff 3y agoRight -- my point is that, despite SimpleDB being an ancient and objectively awful service that's been deprecated for ages, it still hasn't been discontinued. > Would it shock you to learn that SDB is still running and working for a handful of customers? Not in the slightest.
- QuinnyPig 3y agoDeepLens, Alexa for Business, OpsWorks for Chef, OpsWorks for Puppet, Import/Export jobs, Sumerian, DataPipeline, Elastic Inference, Amazon WorkLink, and Lumberyard. So far.
- x86x87 3y agoSetting aside nitpicking if some of these are services or features, if they belong or not under the AWS umbrella and just accepti g it at face value: how many aws services are out there and what % of them do these represent?
- ericpauley 3y agoEC2 Classic! Although in that case the migration path is pretty clear.
- x86x87 3y agoHahahahaha. Forgot about EC2 classic. What a wild ride that was
- ericpauley 3y agoI’ll admit it was before my time. It’s amazing the things (e.g., VPC) we take for granted…
- ericpauley 3y agoI’ve never heard of AWS cloud drive… Amazon Cloud Drive is/was a consumer product. AWS’s legacy support reputation has been (as others have noted) incredible.
- surajrmal 3y agoOrganizationally, domains was not part of cloud. It's part of shopping which is closer to ads and search. I don't see the correlation between this and turning down cloud.
- wikibob 3y agoNobody cares. Seriously, customers don’t care about the internal nuance of how things are organized. They care that a very foundational piece of a cloud service provider will suddenly be not available.
- jasonladuke0311 3y agoSeriously. Comments like the one to which you responded are absolutely endemic on this site. Like half the people here are incapable of viewing anything as a non-expert.
- ghayes 3y agoAren’t the people that use GCP the voices that you should listen to? The 2-back comment is basically hearsay while the 3-back is from a presumed GCP customer. I also use GCP and this stings a little, but I’ve never otherwise seen a single component in GCP deprecated, which is why I continue to use GCP.
- bavell 3y agoGCP customer here as well and while this does make me a bit wary, I'm not too ruffled yet. I really love their cloud console UI and how they organize things and have been nothing but happy with their cloud services. Hoping it stays that way!
- Macha 3y agoThe need to study the internal org structure of your vendor to assess product longevity is itself a negative for that vendor.
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- Havoc 3y agoHow are you supposed to build on a platform if they keep pulling the rug out under you?
- _fat_santa 3y agoI texted my business partner a link to the story yesterday about Google Domains getting sold off with the comment: "I'm so glad we decided to go with AWS over GCP". A big part of selecting a cloud service provider is trust. You have to trust that you can build your stuff on top of theirs and they aren't going to pull the rug out from under you. Right now I don't know how anyone picking a cloud service provider can confidently go with GCP, and the only ones I see moving to GCP are those that get massive discounts for doing so. I'm making a bet that in 10 years, GCP will be no more and most likely sucked up by either Azure of AWS.
- hedora 3y agoThey’re also disabling io_uring in some of their public facing services, chromebooks, etc. The issue is they run a bunch of kernels that are years old, which were missing security backports. There has been one io_uring CVE for the linux 6.x series. That’s worse than zero, but local linux kernel exploits are pretty common. Anyway, this sort of rug pulling for stuff like GKE makes it clear they’re not willing to stand by already-released products. Edit: Also, it’s worth pointing out that the kernels for chromebooks and gke are single-tenant, so, if disabling io_uring really is necessary, it should be a customer controlled knob. If people are running kernel exploits on your laptop / server containers, you’re probably already screwed.
- dinvlad 3y agoSorry, could you expand a bit more on what happened with GKE? I’m still trying to process all of this instead of enjoying my Saturday.
- zarzavat 3y agoI don’t think Google can divest GCP without losing a fatal amount of face. It would cause some very awkward questions to be asked such as: is Google’s valuation justified if they fail so abjectly at what is supposed to be their core competence? On the other hand, from the beginning it has never felt like they wanted to be in the cloud services business and GCP has only ever existed for the aforementioned face saving reasons. It has just never fit with their company culture of: NIH all the tech, have users not customers, and place what’s best for managers’ careers above what’s best for the company.
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- aynyc 3y agoI’m really surprised they didn’t fold it under GCP service line. To me, it means GCP is done.
- browningstreet 3y agoIf it’s not a reflection of GCP it’s potentially a reflection of Google Workspaces. Why domains and workspaces wouldn’t be connected is beyond strange. It’s basic internet infrastructure and they’re not going to own a piece of it, even to automate customer onboarding. I can’t imagine counting on google for anything anymore. And they’re inexplicably weird in this regard.
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- chris37879 3y agoDomains and Workspaces are worse than seperate. Domains is treated as a third party retailer of Workspace accounts. I had to abandon a Workspace because I bought it through Domains and their support couldn't fix an access issue, and Woorkspace support said Domains had to do it cause they sold it...
- windex 3y agoI get the feeling that Google's services are only for data harvesting. Once that is done or understood, they shut down the service.
- elforce002 3y agoOur startup is using GCP exclusively but after this (we have our domains with them), we're debating wether diversify our infra now or "trust" GCP won't go away anytime soon.
- x86x87 3y agoLol. Run for a other cloud provider. AWS or Azure are serious about their customers. GCP is part toy, part science experiment. I am expecting it to be discontinued in the near future. I don't know any medium or large business that puts all their eggs in the GCP basket - or if they do they usually have some sort of deal directly with Google.
- noman-land 3y agoGoogle is not trustworthy. Full stop.
- anyoneamous 3y agoThe only future I see for GCP is if they lean heavily into the "pure IaaS + K8s" position, and compete aggressively on price. If customers start to run their own equivalent of SageMaker (or whatever BS the Azure equivalent is) on self-managed GCP clusters for a fraction of the price, cloud competition could finally get interesting.
- andrewstuart 3y agoSeriously, Google should just give up at this point and close everything except search, ads, chrome, YouTube and maps.
- paxys 3y agoSo Google should “give up” and just make $300B in annual revenue..
- andrewstuart 3y agoYep. Close Google cloud. Close everything that’s not maps, ads/search, YouTube, chrome, gmail. Minimize costs. Just feed that money straight to its investors. Its the end of the road for googles efforts at innovation.
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- johnwheeler 3y agoYou don’t say…
- klon 3y agoIt should be noted GCP still has Cloud Domains: https://cloud.google.com/domains/ https://cloud.google.com/domains/ It should be trivial to transfer your domains there if you don't want to deal with Squarespace.