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The easy option would be to have a default law like "you open source your code 5 years after it was created for phones/tablets/cars/etc and it automatically app

The easy option would be to have a default law like "you open source your code 5 years after it was created for phones/tablets/cars/etc and it automatically applies to your suppliers as well and the necessary software tooling to get it working. If this requires hardware to program the devices, provide the blueprints of the devices as well". Then it would be understood and agreed that anyone making software they have to release as open source what was closed source 5 years back. This way I would say that you can't bring the "but the competitors will use this to steal my business" argument. What you would get in essence is a snapshot of what technology looked like 5 years ago (or a decent number of years people can agree on) and you can fork from there if there's a will to give a second life to various devices. But really, I don't want an ugly phone because someone decided batteries should be user replaceable like in the old days. And yes, I like my iPhone to be sleek.

jychang 3y ago
Never going to happen, unless you think western governments would like guaranteeing that Chinese tech will never be more than 5 years out of date.
vladvasiliu 3y ago
> But really, I don't want an ugly phone because someone decided batteries should be user replaceable like in the old days. And yes, I like my iPhone to be sleek. I don't know about ugly, but my galaxy s5 with a replaceable battery was barely thicker than an iphone 14 without one: 8.1 mm vs 7.8 mm, according to wikipedia. The difference is actually bigger between the 14 and the 7, so even without removable batteries, iphones are getting thicker. The GS5 was also IP67 certified, and, indeed, it had no issues under heavy rain attached to my motorcycle handlebars, during multiple long trips. I strongly doubt that having a removable cover would noticeably alter the phone's looks or thickness.
pleb_nz 3y ago
They don't have to be ugly and plenty weren't. Secondly, you put prioritise on asthetics over what's good for the planet?

jychang 3y ago

Never going to happen, unless you think western governments would like guaranteeing that Chinese tech will never be more than 5 years out of date.

vladvasiliu 3y ago

> But really, I don't want an ugly phone because someone decided batteries should be user replaceable like in the old days. And yes, I like my iPhone to be sleek. I don't know about ugly, but my galaxy s5 with a replaceable battery was barely thicker than an iphone 14 without one: 8.1 mm vs 7.8 mm, according to wikipedia. The difference is actually bigger between the 14 and the 7, so even without removable batteries, iphones are getting thicker. The GS5 was also IP67 certified, and, indeed, it had no issues under heavy rain attached to my motorcycle handlebars, during multiple long trips. I strongly doubt that having a removable cover would noticeably alter the phone's looks or thickness.

pleb_nz 3y ago

They don't have to be ugly and plenty weren't. Secondly, you put prioritise on asthetics over what's good for the planet?