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So, the huge factor you're talking about is stress. Another factor is multi-tasking. Each are multipliers in draining energy. I can work 16 hour days also, but

by gexla 3y ago

So, the huge factor you're talking about is stress. Another factor is multi-tasking. Each are multipliers in draining energy. I can work 16 hour days also, but I'm still dealing with a good portion of that at a seriously degraded mental state. At the end, I'll be making the dumbest mistakes, and it's questionable if that time is even useful. Athletes do it best I think. They have their cycles of sport, training and recovery. They know their limits. They know their optimum.

staunton 3y ago
They (top athletes) are also often physically devastated at age 40 and suffer from chronic issues for the rest of their lives. The incentives for top athletes are not conducive to a healthy life at all.
- jdkoeck 3y ago
  Citation needed! I don’t think any of this is true and, of course, I would imagine it’s not the same for all sports.
  - cplusplusfellow 3y ago
    It’s anecdotal but I was pretty shocked by the fact that NBA players have significant and serious issues with their feet.
    - cafard 3y ago
      Well, they tend to be bigger than other fit people (NFL players excepted), and they do a lot of jumping, which if all goes well is followed by landing.
  - throw__away7391 3y ago
    I worked with a guy who played college football and had aspirations for the NFL, he was a wreck and always complaining about the lingering effects of injuries from his days playing. I guess this is somewhat expected with a contact sport, but I've also seen guys I knew who did a lot of high intensity training and after about 10 years or so seem to start aging more quickly compared to their non-athletic siblings. I mean getting exercise is definitely good for you and in a choice between too much and too little I think you're better off overdoing it, but just constantly burning your metabolism at full steam seems to age you faster, couple that with the impact caloric deficit is supposed to have on aging and at least in my mind there's a pretty clear connection between the two.
    - ernst_klim 3y ago
      As someone who did competitive weightlifting early in my life I don't think it's true. First of all, a healthy body is very good at adaptation, i.e. if properly trained, your bones, muscles and other tissues get thicker and less prone to tearing, breakage etc. Second, you will be surprised at how much pressure could daily activities put on your tissues, e.g. your vertabrae disks get higher pressure when you are wobbly sitting than standing even with some additional load. And in my experience people who train their body for extreme conditions have less problems in their elderly than people who never trained much at all. And as you've noticed, most sportspeople have troubles with their serious traumas, not due to routine trainings. Plus of course this traumatization level varies from sport to sport.
      - 2muchcoffeeman 3y ago
        I don’t think it’s super clear from your post. In this friends case it was the NFL part that caused the damage. Not the fitness part. I once did a boxing class. The day we did drills with with those boxing pads that require 2 hands to hold up, my head was throbbing for the rest of the day. Tried it again and same thing. Then I quit. Clearly I cannot take a serious punch.
  - kossTKR 3y ago
    This is common knowledge. Both retired pro soccer and handball players in my scandinavian countries almost all have a myriad of issues, most commonly and serious knee issues that require many operations. I know several pro swimmers though and haven't heard of any serious issues there, so i guess it's from the impacts and constant running.
    - DanielHB 3y ago
      Heck, I'm Brazilian and it feels like 50% of males I know developed knee problem in their late 30s/early 40s Almost all of them were weekend football (court, not grass) players. The others were week day players as well Me, like the good nerd, I am developed back problems instead
  - Archelaos 3y ago
    Just google for it. Many studies are easy to find online. Of course, it is not the same for all sports.
etherealG 3y ago
Some people enjoy multi tasking. For them, focus = boredom = frustration. That’s me. If you give me 7 hours per day on the same focused task, I’ll burn out just like you described for the opposite. Please stop projecting your ideal work life onto other people. Mental preferences are endlessly complex. It’s not ok to assume everyone has your preference and can work the same hours and way you do. It’s also not ok to project that towards some work / life balance that assumes things outside work are primary drivers in everyone’s lives. Some people derive their main satisfaction in life from the fruit of their work. That’s ok too.

by gexla 3y ago

staunton 3y ago

They (top athletes) are also often physically devastated at age 40 and suffer from chronic issues for the rest of their lives. The incentives for top athletes are not conducive to a healthy life at all.

jdkoeck 3y ago
Citation needed! I don’t think any of this is true and, of course, I would imagine it’s not the same for all sports.
- cplusplusfellow 3y ago
  It’s anecdotal but I was pretty shocked by the fact that NBA players have significant and serious issues with their feet.
  - cafard 3y ago
    Well, they tend to be bigger than other fit people (NFL players excepted), and they do a lot of jumping, which if all goes well is followed by landing.
- throw__away7391 3y ago
  I worked with a guy who played college football and had aspirations for the NFL, he was a wreck and always complaining about the lingering effects of injuries from his days playing. I guess this is somewhat expected with a contact sport, but I've also seen guys I knew who did a lot of high intensity training and after about 10 years or so seem to start aging more quickly compared to their non-athletic siblings. I mean getting exercise is definitely good for you and in a choice between too much and too little I think you're better off overdoing it, but just constantly burning your metabolism at full steam seems to age you faster, couple that with the impact caloric deficit is supposed to have on aging and at least in my mind there's a pretty clear connection between the two.
  - ernst_klim 3y ago
    As someone who did competitive weightlifting early in my life I don't think it's true. First of all, a healthy body is very good at adaptation, i.e. if properly trained, your bones, muscles and other tissues get thicker and less prone to tearing, breakage etc. Second, you will be surprised at how much pressure could daily activities put on your tissues, e.g. your vertabrae disks get higher pressure when you are wobbly sitting than standing even with some additional load. And in my experience people who train their body for extreme conditions have less problems in their elderly than people who never trained much at all. And as you've noticed, most sportspeople have troubles with their serious traumas, not due to routine trainings. Plus of course this traumatization level varies from sport to sport.
    - 2muchcoffeeman 3y ago
      I don’t think it’s super clear from your post. In this friends case it was the NFL part that caused the damage. Not the fitness part. I once did a boxing class. The day we did drills with with those boxing pads that require 2 hands to hold up, my head was throbbing for the rest of the day. Tried it again and same thing. Then I quit. Clearly I cannot take a serious punch.
- kossTKR 3y ago
  This is common knowledge. Both retired pro soccer and handball players in my scandinavian countries almost all have a myriad of issues, most commonly and serious knee issues that require many operations. I know several pro swimmers though and haven't heard of any serious issues there, so i guess it's from the impacts and constant running.
  - DanielHB 3y ago
    Heck, I'm Brazilian and it feels like 50% of males I know developed knee problem in their late 30s/early 40s Almost all of them were weekend football (court, not grass) players. The others were week day players as well Me, like the good nerd, I am developed back problems instead
- Archelaos 3y ago
  Just google for it. Many studies are easy to find online. Of course, it is not the same for all sports.

etherealG 3y ago

Some people enjoy multi tasking. For them, focus = boredom = frustration. That’s me. If you give me 7 hours per day on the same focused task, I’ll burn out just like you described for the opposite. Please stop projecting your ideal work life onto other people. Mental preferences are endlessly complex. It’s not ok to assume everyone has your preference and can work the same hours and way you do. It’s also not ok to project that towards some work / life balance that assumes things outside work are primary drivers in everyone’s lives. Some people derive their main satisfaction in life from the fruit of their work. That’s ok too.