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Any prosecutor prosecuting corrupt cops is going to lead a short and lonely life. Law enforcement needs to be forcibly rebuilt by civilian led institutions embe

Any prosecutor prosecuting corrupt cops is going to lead a short and lonely life. Law enforcement needs to be forcibly rebuilt by civilian led institutions embedded into their communities in partnership with the plethora of organizations offering a cornucopia of types of support. Cops first priority after safety should be diversion to community resources for support and integration. Trying to maintain the classist shithole that is America will continue to see bullshit like this and doomed to fail policies.

dmix 3y ago
OP proposed a position that isn't just some random prosecutor trying to fight the cops they work for? To reiterate what they said: >> We’d be a lot better off if there was a permanent special prosecutor charged with identifying and prosecuting these crimes. --- > Law enforcement needs to be forcibly rebuilt by civilian led institutions embedded into their communities in partnership with the plethora of organizations offering a cornucopia of types of support. What does this mean in practice specifically? Which specific non-government/tax-payer funded organizations should have this responsibility?
marcusb 3y ago
> Law enforcement needs to be forcibly rebuilt by civilian led institutions embedded into their communities in partnership with the plethora of organizations offering a cornucopia of types of support. Law enforcement agencies are civilian institutions. The only non-civilian entities in the United States are the uniformed service branches of the Department of Defense and the state National Guard units. This isn’t minor grammatical nit-picking, and is central to the point I was making: police officers are civil servants. They should be held to account under the civil and criminal code the rest of us have to abide by when they commit wrong-doing. We should not carve out exceptions for them, real or imagined [0], that the rest of us do not enjoy. That said, if you don’t believe we can amend one law and appoint a special prosecutors office, what makes you think we can successfully rebuild these institutions from the ground up? 0 - You can read the federal solicitation to commit a crime of violence statute, 18 USC § 373, for yourself and decide if the statute permits this kind of behavior from the FBI. I’d argue such behavior as in the OP violates the statute already, but I have no doubt the courts have accepted all manner of excuses regarding ‘intent’ that would not be given the time of day with a non-government defendant. In any case, I stand with my original point: amend these laws to make absolutely clear this conduct is illegal. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373

dmix 3y ago

OP proposed a position that isn't just some random prosecutor trying to fight the cops they work for? To reiterate what they said: >> We’d be a lot better off if there was a permanent special prosecutor charged with identifying and prosecuting these crimes. --- > Law enforcement needs to be forcibly rebuilt by civilian led institutions embedded into their communities in partnership with the plethora of organizations offering a cornucopia of types of support. What does this mean in practice specifically? Which specific non-government/tax-payer funded organizations should have this responsibility?

marcusb 3y ago

> Law enforcement needs to be forcibly rebuilt by civilian led institutions embedded into their communities in partnership with the plethora of organizations offering a cornucopia of types of support. Law enforcement agencies are civilian institutions. The only non-civilian entities in the United States are the uniformed service branches of the Department of Defense and the state National Guard units. This isn’t minor grammatical nit-picking, and is central to the point I was making: police officers are civil servants. They should be held to account under the civil and criminal code the rest of us have to abide by when they commit wrong-doing. We should not carve out exceptions for them, real or imagined [0], that the rest of us do not enjoy. That said, if you don’t believe we can amend one law and appoint a special prosecutors office, what makes you think we can successfully rebuild these institutions from the ground up? 0 - You can read the federal solicitation to commit a crime of violence statute, 18 USC § 373, for yourself and decide if the statute permits this kind of behavior from the FBI. I’d argue such behavior as in the OP violates the statute already, but I have no doubt the courts have accepted all manner of excuses regarding ‘intent’ that would not be given the time of day with a non-government defendant. In any case, I stand with my original point: amend these laws to make absolutely clear this conduct is illegal. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373