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Bring back IRC!

paulryanrogers 3y ago
No logs. Not indexable. Feels like a very different thing, with its own FOSS+federated alternatives. Discourse instances, Lemmy, or even Mastodon / ActivityPubs are probably a better fit
- Tijdreiziger 3y ago
  IIUC Lemmy (and Kbin) are built on ActivityPub.
- anthk 3y ago
  IRC is for chat. NNTP it's the protocol which is the antecesor for Reddit and web fora. Usenet (https://www.eternal-september.org https://www.eternal-september.org) with Pan/SLRN as the clients has a much better pace, and the talks on tech circles are top quality, such as comp.unix.misc or comp.unix.programmer or comp.lang.c. No need to update or answer inmediately, you'll get much better answers to complex issues by waiting a few hours. Then there's FIDO and DOVEnet, which you can access thru Telnet (BBS'), SSH, web and Usenet. Most of it are old folks and ancient tech, but you have better talks on modern news (and some niche Unix talks) as they post long and elaborated arguments. Using a Usenet client againt FIDO/Dovenet thru cvs.syncro.net:113 it's like using any other Usenet client as the hierarchies are closeish and as a plus you get threaded discussions for free.
Gigachad 3y ago
IRC is basically unusable these days. Protocols which require a persistent open connection do not work on mobile devices.
- ivank 3y ago
  The Lounge works pretty well in iOS Safari.
- ilovecurl 3y ago
  False. Most modern day users of IRC are aware of software like IRCCloud which allow seamless participation in IRC channels on mobile.
  - Gigachad 3y ago
    That's just wrapping IRC in an actually usable protocol. At that point you aren't using IRC. Might as well use something like Matrix and be able to take advantage of a better protocol.
  - Saris 3y ago
    At that point you might as well use something more modern than IRC, if you're going to wrap it in another protocol anyways.
- activiation 3y ago
  You can use something like ZNC so that you always stay connected even if your phone connects and disconnects often
  - rcxdude 3y ago
    Or you can use a protocol which actually just gives you this feature without needing to run another service to get it (which is basically all of IRC: it's a simplistic to the point of useless protocol which people have stacked a series of bodges on top of in order to actually make something approximating usable for highly technical users. It shocks me that anyone thinks this is good, let alone that it's better than the many alternatives now available).

Bring back IRC!

No logs. Not indexable. Feels like a very different thing, with its own FOSS+federated alternatives. Discourse instances, Lemmy, or even Mastodon / ActivityPubs are probably a better fit

Tijdreiziger 3y ago
IIUC Lemmy (and Kbin) are built on ActivityPub.
anthk 3y ago
IRC is for chat. NNTP it's the protocol which is the antecesor for Reddit and web fora. Usenet (https://www.eternal-september.org https://www.eternal-september.org) with Pan/SLRN as the clients has a much better pace, and the talks on tech circles are top quality, such as comp.unix.misc or comp.unix.programmer or comp.lang.c. No need to update or answer inmediately, you'll get much better answers to complex issues by waiting a few hours. Then there's FIDO and DOVEnet, which you can access thru Telnet (BBS'), SSH, web and Usenet. Most of it are old folks and ancient tech, but you have better talks on modern news (and some niche Unix talks) as they post long and elaborated arguments. Using a Usenet client againt FIDO/Dovenet thru cvs.syncro.net:113 it's like using any other Usenet client as the hierarchies are closeish and as a plus you get threaded discussions for free.

Gigachad 3y ago

IRC is basically unusable these days. Protocols which require a persistent open connection do not work on mobile devices.

ivank 3y ago
The Lounge works pretty well in iOS Safari.
ilovecurl 3y ago
False. Most modern day users of IRC are aware of software like IRCCloud which allow seamless participation in IRC channels on mobile.
- Gigachad 3y ago
  That's just wrapping IRC in an actually usable protocol. At that point you aren't using IRC. Might as well use something like Matrix and be able to take advantage of a better protocol.
- Saris 3y ago
  At that point you might as well use something more modern than IRC, if you're going to wrap it in another protocol anyways.
activiation 3y ago
You can use something like ZNC so that you always stay connected even if your phone connects and disconnects often
- rcxdude 3y ago
  Or you can use a protocol which actually just gives you this feature without needing to run another service to get it (which is basically all of IRC: it's a simplistic to the point of useless protocol which people have stacked a series of bodges on top of in order to actually make something approximating usable for highly technical users. It shocks me that anyone thinks this is good, let alone that it's better than the many alternatives now available).