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Battery is the only part of the phone that is guaranteed to fail with normal use, and making the battery hard to replace is a huge pain for end users (and in tu

Battery is the only part of the phone that is guaranteed to fail with normal use, and making the battery hard to replace is a huge pain for end users (and in turn, to their wallets and the environment). Just pulling off the back plate and using your fingernail to replace the battery has turned to having to heat the screen, insert a wedge under the glass, but not deeper than X mm, scrub away the glue, without beaking the screen, unscewing a zillion screws, removing the mainboard, just to reach the battery, then unglueing the battery and the nfc antennas, inserting a new battery, which is sometimes impossible to buy from an OEM, assembling all together, reapplying glue, sticking it all together and hoping it won't fall apart in the pocket... or paying >100eur for a battery replacement, which is sometimes more than half the price of a new phone.

lolinder 3y ago
> Battery is the only part of the phone that is guaranteed to fail with normal use I hang onto my phones until the software becomes unusable, either because apps drop support for my OS (and I can't update any more) or I get scared into upgrading for security. I've never had a battery fail or even get to the point where it doesn't last a whole day—the software fails first. My understanding is that it's different with iOS, because Apple is much better at supporting their old phones than most Android manufacturers.
- Dalewyn 3y ago
  My experience is that it's neither the battery nor the software that fails: It's the phone modem. Every single one of my Android phones stopped working as phones 3 to 5 years down the line. Couldn't take calls, the phone never became aware of them. Couldn't call anyone, not even emergency services, the phone never connected despite full bars. It's always the fucking phone modem. I'm still using an Android, but when this one eventually fails (this one's starting to flake out at not even a year old, bought new...) I might seriously move over to an iPhone simply because every single iPhone I've seen others use has apparently never stopped working as phones. That's even if they fried a couple Lightning cables and whatnot. I bought a phone, I expect it to phone. God damn.
  - r00fus 3y ago
    That’s quite amazing because I have phones from 10 years ago that function fully (only one is an Android - Nexus 5).

lolinder 3y ago

> Battery is the only part of the phone that is guaranteed to fail with normal use I hang onto my phones until the software becomes unusable, either because apps drop support for my OS (and I can't update any more) or I get scared into upgrading for security. I've never had a battery fail or even get to the point where it doesn't last a whole day—the software fails first. My understanding is that it's different with iOS, because Apple is much better at supporting their old phones than most Android manufacturers.

Dalewyn 3y ago
My experience is that it's neither the battery nor the software that fails: It's the phone modem. Every single one of my Android phones stopped working as phones 3 to 5 years down the line. Couldn't take calls, the phone never became aware of them. Couldn't call anyone, not even emergency services, the phone never connected despite full bars. It's always the fucking phone modem. I'm still using an Android, but when this one eventually fails (this one's starting to flake out at not even a year old, bought new...) I might seriously move over to an iPhone simply because every single iPhone I've seen others use has apparently never stopped working as phones. That's even if they fried a couple Lightning cables and whatnot. I bought a phone, I expect it to phone. God damn.
- r00fus 3y ago
  That’s quite amazing because I have phones from 10 years ago that function fully (only one is an Android - Nexus 5).