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I wish mediawiki was more loved. It is an amazingly effective and intuitive piece of software. But maintaining, upgrading and managing it and the various extens
by nologic01 3y ago
I wish mediawiki was more loved. It is an amazingly effective and intuitive piece of software. But maintaining, upgrading and managing it and the various extensions is a pain.
I suspect a rethink and rewrite could substantially reduce the cost of running such wili farms but is unlikely to ever happen.
- Nemo_bis 3y agoActually, MediaWiki 1.38 and MediaWiki 1.39 (released in November 2022) is already set to help run wiki farms more easily: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.38/New_configuration_system#Configuring_wiki_farms https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.38/New_configurat...
- bawolff 3y agoTBH, I don't really see what the new settings stuff offers over the status quo. It feels like a complex abstraction layer to do what everyone was already doing already.
- Nemo_bis 3y agoI'm not sure either. :D But having some explicit support directly in core hopefully means that we recognise wikifarm support as an essential feature and that over time there will be more collaboration to share good methods to run wikifarms. Multisite Wordpress also took a while to become good, IIRC.
- bawolff 3y agoI think fundamentally the current ext management system works well for Wikimedia and really huge farms (I would include Miraheze in that. MediaWiki is open source and there are plenty of non-Wikimedia foundation developers, but there aren't very many from the small wiki farms communities, so stuff aimed at them doesn't really get done.