Ya I think you make a fair point that a lot of non coding work these days probably doesn’t actually improve the product/make it work better for the end user. I

Ya I think you make a fair point that a lot of non coding work these days probably doesn’t actually improve the product/make it work better for the end user. I see that as simply bad management, and there is indeed a ton of it. Keep in mind that agile began as a reaction to “waterfall” and was intended to reduce bureaucratic overhead and planning. But the reaction became worse than what it was reacting to. I think throwing out all process will just lead us back to bad process. Better to have a good process - some sort of planning and system for improvement is good and necessary IMO. Especially if you’re building an organization or iteratively improving product. v1 can arguably be done seat of the pants but what about subsequent versions.