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i do this. big heavy ide with project and debugger going full blast. I might want to just pop open a log quickly and cba to drag it into the IDE, np++ context m

i do this. big heavy ide with project and debugger going full blast. I might want to just pop open a log quickly and cba to drag it into the IDE, np++ context menu done. more often tho, reading logs on a non-main dev machine/vm/test/field

crabbone 3y ago
Your life is pain... I don't know if you know the feeling: it's like watching inexperienced chess players play -- you want to scream when you see them making dumb moves, but then the opponent also makes a dumb move, which makes it more funny than sad. When I look over the shoulder of people who work like you describe your workflow, just like with chess, I feel this kind of mix of embarrassment and frustration -- it was so easy to do it right, yet you decided to do something silly instead.
- ramg 3y ago
  This is not helpful. Why not suggest a more appropriate workflow without the chastising or denigration? C'mon, you can be supportive.
  - sitzkrieg 3y ago
    shrug, im drastically faster than all my work mates not that thats a good benchmark, im not bothered and have stuff that works quite well for me. what i outlined above is worst case scenario with some huge IDEs like VS or a huge idea project. some projects i do entirely in vim. others i have to use 2 remote debuggers at once with a VM in the mix. im doubtful their advice would apply
    - crabbone 3y ago
      Yeah, it's kind of how it happens. Your skills suck just a tiny bit less than of those around you, and you come to unwarranted conclusion that you are doing good. Unfortunately, our industry has few small pockets where you can still find competent programmers every now and then, but you wouldn't see them using IDEA or VS Code. And then there's an ocean of... well, not even mediocrity, it's just hands down awful. Most programmers throughout their career will never see a competent programmer, and if they stay around will be promoted into management where they will lose the very modest skill they had. And the cycle will continue.
      - sitzkrieg 3y ago
        I am not sure what kinda beef you have with people being able to handle using multiple editors at once but it sure is a doozy
  - crabbone 3y ago
    I don't want to support people who don't want to support themselves. Also, the commenter wasn't asking for support. They proudly believe that what they do is a legitimately good way to use their computer. I've seen way too many people like that, and have an idea how that kind of belief is formed. I don't want to help those people. I want them gone.
    - ramg 3y ago
      > I don't want to help those people. I want them gone. I'm sorry you have this attitude towards people. I wish you the best.
ttyprintk 3y ago
You might like lnav on the far end, especially for colorization.

crabbone 3y ago

Your life is pain... I don't know if you know the feeling: it's like watching inexperienced chess players play -- you want to scream when you see them making dumb moves, but then the opponent also makes a dumb move, which makes it more funny than sad. When I look over the shoulder of people who work like you describe your workflow, just like with chess, I feel this kind of mix of embarrassment and frustration -- it was so easy to do it right, yet you decided to do something silly instead.

ramg 3y ago
This is not helpful. Why not suggest a more appropriate workflow without the chastising or denigration? C'mon, you can be supportive.
- sitzkrieg 3y ago
  shrug, im drastically faster than all my work mates not that thats a good benchmark, im not bothered and have stuff that works quite well for me. what i outlined above is worst case scenario with some huge IDEs like VS or a huge idea project. some projects i do entirely in vim. others i have to use 2 remote debuggers at once with a VM in the mix. im doubtful their advice would apply
  - crabbone 3y ago
    Yeah, it's kind of how it happens. Your skills suck just a tiny bit less than of those around you, and you come to unwarranted conclusion that you are doing good. Unfortunately, our industry has few small pockets where you can still find competent programmers every now and then, but you wouldn't see them using IDEA or VS Code. And then there's an ocean of... well, not even mediocrity, it's just hands down awful. Most programmers throughout their career will never see a competent programmer, and if they stay around will be promoted into management where they will lose the very modest skill they had. And the cycle will continue.
    - sitzkrieg 3y ago
      I am not sure what kinda beef you have with people being able to handle using multiple editors at once but it sure is a doozy
- crabbone 3y ago
  I don't want to support people who don't want to support themselves. Also, the commenter wasn't asking for support. They proudly believe that what they do is a legitimately good way to use their computer. I've seen way too many people like that, and have an idea how that kind of belief is formed. I don't want to help those people. I want them gone.
  - ramg 3y ago
    > I don't want to help those people. I want them gone. I'm sorry you have this attitude towards people. I wish you the best.

ttyprintk 3y ago

You might like lnav on the far end, especially for colorization.