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> I felt smarter, and overall pretty great. I felt like I was making all these brilliant connections. And here I thought the whole point of micro-dosing is the

> I felt smarter, and overall pretty great. I felt like I was making all these brilliant connections. And here I thought the whole point of micro-dosing is the dose is too small to feel anything at all. AIUI what you're calling microdosing is still in the realm of macrodosing, and no shit your working memory and time management was affected. What you were feeling were low-key hallucinations.

mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
Sure, I tried doses that literally didn't do anything, but they literally didn't do anything. There was no magical functional in between land there. It was either nothing at all, or very slight lift in mood and significant side effects, especially as it went on for days.
justmacro 3y ago
Well, I guess what do you mean by feel? I've taken micro-dose amounts, 10-20ug, and have definitely realized I had taken something, but only if I really focused on it. It's certainly not the same as taking 50ug, but you can feel your body working a little differently. Maybe you have to get into amounts even smaller than that? Or maybe it's just placebo? I don't know, hard to say. I do agree with the GP though, sometimes the thing you need is to just jump into a full on 100-150ug trip and hang out in it for the day. Let yourself regain some of that open state and change up the habitual patterns you may not know you're locked into over the course of the next days and weeks. I personally end up doing it about once a year, give or take, and it always ends up being a positive experience (if sometimes difficult).
xcv123 3y ago
> And here I thought the whole point of micro-dosing is the dose is too small to feel anything at all. That is not the point of micro-dosing. What would be the purpose of taking it, if it does absolutely nothing at all? The idea is that you are taking a very small dose, to cause a mild effect, and not so much that you trip out and start hallucinating.
- pengaru 3y ago
  > That is not the point of micro-dosing. What would be the purpose of taking it, if it does absolutely nothing at all? This nonsense can be said of vitamins/supplements. Microdosing psychedelics is basically treating them similarly AIUI. As with vitamins/supplements, just because you can't detect any acute effects doesn't mean they're not having any impact, especially long-term. My own limited experience microdosing psilocybin for a couple weeks was that despite not feeling any acute effects at all, upon reflection post-facto my overall behavior was changed in interesting ways. Mostly related to priorities and paying attention to things I had long forgotten/ignored.
  - xcv123 3y ago
    > This nonsense can be said of vitamins/supplements. That is a silly comparison. Vitamins are essential to life and prevent disease. They are not psychoactive substances. People microdose hallucinogens to "improve productivity, creativity and mood". That is an obvious detectable effect. These are potent psychoactive substances. Microdosing is comparable to caffeine and nicotine, not vitamins. > My own limited experience microdosing psilocybin Not a typical experience. Sounds like you nano-dosed on weak shrooms. https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12888-023-04628-9 https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12...
    - pengaru 3y ago
      More like 5-HTP IMO.
- pmoriarty 3y ago
  The effects of microdoses are below the threshold of perception. If you can tell a difference when you take it then it's a small dose, not a microdose.
  - xcv123 3y ago
    > If you can tell a difference when you take it then it's a small dose, not a microdose. Objectively scientifically measurably false. Typical microdoses have a noticeable effect. https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12888-023-04628-9 https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12... https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/microdosing-lsd https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/microdosing-lsd https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/adb.13143 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/adb.13143

mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago

Sure, I tried doses that literally didn't do anything, but they literally didn't do anything. There was no magical functional in between land there. It was either nothing at all, or very slight lift in mood and significant side effects, especially as it went on for days.

justmacro 3y ago

Well, I guess what do you mean by feel? I've taken micro-dose amounts, 10-20ug, and have definitely realized I had taken something, but only if I really focused on it. It's certainly not the same as taking 50ug, but you can feel your body working a little differently. Maybe you have to get into amounts even smaller than that? Or maybe it's just placebo? I don't know, hard to say. I do agree with the GP though, sometimes the thing you need is to just jump into a full on 100-150ug trip and hang out in it for the day. Let yourself regain some of that open state and change up the habitual patterns you may not know you're locked into over the course of the next days and weeks. I personally end up doing it about once a year, give or take, and it always ends up being a positive experience (if sometimes difficult).

xcv123 3y ago

> And here I thought the whole point of micro-dosing is the dose is too small to feel anything at all. That is not the point of micro-dosing. What would be the purpose of taking it, if it does absolutely nothing at all? The idea is that you are taking a very small dose, to cause a mild effect, and not so much that you trip out and start hallucinating.

pengaru 3y ago
> That is not the point of micro-dosing. What would be the purpose of taking it, if it does absolutely nothing at all? This nonsense can be said of vitamins/supplements. Microdosing psychedelics is basically treating them similarly AIUI. As with vitamins/supplements, just because you can't detect any acute effects doesn't mean they're not having any impact, especially long-term. My own limited experience microdosing psilocybin for a couple weeks was that despite not feeling any acute effects at all, upon reflection post-facto my overall behavior was changed in interesting ways. Mostly related to priorities and paying attention to things I had long forgotten/ignored.
- xcv123 3y ago
  > This nonsense can be said of vitamins/supplements. That is a silly comparison. Vitamins are essential to life and prevent disease. They are not psychoactive substances. People microdose hallucinogens to "improve productivity, creativity and mood". That is an obvious detectable effect. These are potent psychoactive substances. Microdosing is comparable to caffeine and nicotine, not vitamins. > My own limited experience microdosing psilocybin Not a typical experience. Sounds like you nano-dosed on weak shrooms. https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12888-023-04628-9 https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12...
  - pengaru 3y ago
    More like 5-HTP IMO.
pmoriarty 3y ago
The effects of microdoses are below the threshold of perception. If you can tell a difference when you take it then it's a small dose, not a microdose.
- xcv123 3y ago
  > If you can tell a difference when you take it then it's a small dose, not a microdose. Objectively scientifically measurably false. Typical microdoses have a noticeable effect. https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12888-023-04628-9 https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12... https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/microdosing-lsd https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/microdosing-lsd https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/adb.13143 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/adb.13143