That last point is, IMHO, the real problem. It's pretty reasonable to want to charge for the API, but saying "we just want a fair price" and setting a price tha

That last point is, IMHO, the real problem. It's pretty reasonable to want to charge for the API, but saying "we just want a fair price" and setting a price that's clearly meant just to kill them off is dishonest. Just say you're turning off API access. And then there's the lying about Christian (the Apollo guy), where Huffman/spez just straight-up lied. We know that because Christian posted a call recording. Now he's lying about the RIF situation. He goes in and edits _other users' comments_ when he feels like it seemingly for no reason. The takeaway for me at least is that the guy is just a liar, and investing a lot of time and energy (either as a contributor, developer, or mod) into a company run by a flagrantly dishonest bad actor is a bad idea.