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Never said engineers. The engineering is fine. Designers though..absolutely. If what youre saying is true ..implementing dark patterns to increase ad sales an
by nerdchum 3y ago
Never said engineers. The engineering is fine.
Designers though..absolutely.
If what youre saying is true
..implementing dark patterns to increase ad sales and user engagement over quality ui, content, and a historical beloved ui is a big middle finger to their users.
All involved should be made public and shamed.
- bbor 3y agoApologies, I wasn’t reading carefully enough! Not sure I agree that UX is more or less culpable for dark patterns than SWE, but I see the distinction Always found they distinction interesting. At my last role UX was very technical, and I’ve taken design/HCI courses as part of CS curriculum, so it’s always weird to see them sectioned off as a type of… artists, I guess? When HN dies down from the blackouts perhaps I’ll broach the more academic “what is an engineer?” question. :)
- nerdchum 3y agoThe term engineer is a little vague can be applied to anyone who makes something. My buddy who put pontoons on a picnic table could be considered an marine engineer. ;) I guess graphic designers could be considered engineers, since they use color science and UX research. There's definitely a subjective element there. I personally define engineering where the design ends and code/implementation begins, otherwise its UI, UX, and design and even the tools used are different up to that point. And typically in a lot of companies the design vs code responsibilities are differentiated as well.
- rumblerock 3y agoAbove the designers I'd take a hard look at the PMs, who probably broke what was a better initial re-design to maximize ads / metrics.