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Nope, "violent mobs" are something that if it exists and rich enough modern democratic societies (and others) that is effect of some cause that needs immediate

Nope, "violent mobs" are something that if it exists and rich enough modern democratic societies (and others) that is effect of some cause that needs immediate fixing, even beating them just down is maybe too much - I know I'm a bit too idealistic and romantic (: But no, please let us not starts with robots/machines fighting our own society but fix it, drones in warfare are already enough of an ethical problem..

godelski 3y ago
I think for the vast majority of cases I agree. If there are public riots, the system fucked up. This doesn't mean that the public riots are directed at the appropriate solution or have correctly identified the underlying issue, it just means that something broke and that thing is serious. Almost nothing is going to lead to a public riot overnight. It is because the problem was left unsolved and the pressure built. I'm perfectly okay if there are severe consequences for authorities who do not attempt to solve problems that cause pressure to build. If you play with a pipe bomb, you gotta be careful and attentive.
UncleEntity 3y ago
I assume you mean to apply this theory equally to more than just the leftists?
thesuperbigfrog 3y ago
>> Nope, "violent mobs" are something that if it exists and rich enough modern democratic societies (and others) that is effect of some cause that needs immediate fixing, even beating them just down is maybe too much - I know I'm a bit too idealistic and romantic (: So a devil's advocate question then: If a riot control gas-equipped drone was available at Washington DC on Jan. 6, 2021, should it have been used? By what criteria do you define "some cause that needs immediate fixing"? Where does one draw the line between "valid civil unrest" / "protest" and "a violent mob"? >> let us not starts with robots/machines fighting our own society Should human police officers be used then? Or should the "protesters" / mob be allowed to roam freely?

godelski 3y ago

I think for the vast majority of cases I agree. If there are public riots, the system fucked up. This doesn't mean that the public riots are directed at the appropriate solution or have correctly identified the underlying issue, it just means that something broke and that thing is serious. Almost nothing is going to lead to a public riot overnight. It is because the problem was left unsolved and the pressure built. I'm perfectly okay if there are severe consequences for authorities who do not attempt to solve problems that cause pressure to build. If you play with a pipe bomb, you gotta be careful and attentive.

UncleEntity 3y ago

I assume you mean to apply this theory equally to more than just the leftists?

thesuperbigfrog 3y ago

>> Nope, "violent mobs" are something that if it exists and rich enough modern democratic societies (and others) that is effect of some cause that needs immediate fixing, even beating them just down is maybe too much - I know I'm a bit too idealistic and romantic (: So a devil's advocate question then: If a riot control gas-equipped drone was available at Washington DC on Jan. 6, 2021, should it have been used? By what criteria do you define "some cause that needs immediate fixing"? Where does one draw the line between "valid civil unrest" / "protest" and "a violent mob"? >> let us not starts with robots/machines fighting our own society Should human police officers be used then? Or should the "protesters" / mob be allowed to roam freely?