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I was confused at first by the federated nature of Lemmy, but making an account was easy and I'm thoroughly enjoying it now. The important thing to note – even

I was confused at first by the federated nature of Lemmy, but making an account was easy and I'm thoroughly enjoying it now. The important thing to note – even though you join a particular Lemmy "instance", it doesn't particularly matter which one, because you can subscribe to communities (subreddits) from any instance. The instance I joined – vlemmy.net An aggregator of communities to join – https://lemmyverse.net/communities https://lemmyverse.net/communities

deelowe 3y ago
Isn't there an issue with instances blocking certain communities on other instances?
- BudaDude 3y ago
  Yes but if I recall correctly, whatever you are subscribed to you still see in your feed, even if it’s blocked by the instance. I may be incorrect and if so please correct me.
  - Stephen304 3y ago
    I think you're thinking about "limiting" another instance, where content from the limited instance is excluded from public feeds but still shows up in personal feeds to those who are subscribed. Sadly limiting instances like mastodon can do isn't available in lemmy or kbin afaik, so highly moderated instances like beehaw are resorting to complete disconnection (defederation) for now until moderation tooling improves. One caveat about the current implementations is that a defederated instance doesn't seem to know it's been defederated from, so a stale copy of the remote content still exists and can be interacted with (users can post in the remote community that defederated and comment on stale posts, or even new posts in the remote community that are made by local users, however none of that will get synced to the remote communities / instance that defederated).
- JCharante 3y ago
  Isn't there an issue with reddit banning certain communities? With the fediverse you can choose to be on an instance that doesn't block others or be on an instance that does block. For example, the instance I'm on defederates from 4 instances while beehaw defederates from 100+
  - networkchad 3y ago
    Is there a visual / graph that shows these relationships and blockings? Would make navigating whom is censoring what much more easier.
  - deelowe 3y ago
    Why would I care what reddit does? I'm trying to understand how Lemmy works.
- onlyrealcuzzo 3y ago
  Problem easily solved: start your own instance, or find one that doesn't block other instances...
  - wccrawford 3y ago
    Can your own instance be behind a firewall, or does it need to be available from the web in general?
  - deelowe 3y ago
    No. That's silly.
alecco 3y ago
Seems lemmy community has some issues. https://www.jayeless.net/2023/06/on-reddit-and-alternatives.html https://www.jayeless.net/2023/06/on-reddit-and-alternatives....
- BizarroLand 3y ago
  Those issues (per the article) being that it's not a perfected platform yet and that it's slightly different than reddit.
  - monsieurbanana 3y ago
    How do you go from this: > There’s just no way I could feel comfortable in a community that supports the right-wing nationalist Putin’s war on Ukraine, or outright denies the harsh repression meted out against Muslims in China. Which makes up 50% of the article, to "it's slightly different than reddit"?
    - handoflixue 3y ago
      You could just join a different instance, like the article recommends. The bit you quoted is one paragraph out of 10, not "50% of the article". It's not like Reddit has never had ugly sub-reddits, especially earlier on when it was trying to be a bastion of free speech.
      - monsieurbanana 3y ago
        It's more like 3 paragraphs, but that's not really the point. It's one thing to have ugly subreddits / communities, it's another if the developers and the main instance is the ugly one. If one of the main issues of those federated networks is fragmentation, telling me to just ignore the main one doesn't bode particularly well.
- foresto 3y ago
  Rumors of "tankies" running lemmy.ml gave me pause at first, but since it's a federated network with established independent nodes, it seems to me that a single problematic one shouldn't condemn the whole Lemmy platform (let alone the whole Fediverse, of which it is a part). Alternative implementations would probably help as well. Kbin seems to be one. Given the sudden recent interest, perhaps we'll see more before long.
jayknight 3y ago
That's true as long as your instance does block or get blocked by the insurance you want to interact on.
- deelowe 3y ago
  This is too complicated. I don't have time to keep up with all that.
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deelowe 3y ago

Isn't there an issue with instances blocking certain communities on other instances?

BudaDude 3y ago
Yes but if I recall correctly, whatever you are subscribed to you still see in your feed, even if it’s blocked by the instance. I may be incorrect and if so please correct me.
- Stephen304 3y ago
  I think you're thinking about "limiting" another instance, where content from the limited instance is excluded from public feeds but still shows up in personal feeds to those who are subscribed. Sadly limiting instances like mastodon can do isn't available in lemmy or kbin afaik, so highly moderated instances like beehaw are resorting to complete disconnection (defederation) for now until moderation tooling improves. One caveat about the current implementations is that a defederated instance doesn't seem to know it's been defederated from, so a stale copy of the remote content still exists and can be interacted with (users can post in the remote community that defederated and comment on stale posts, or even new posts in the remote community that are made by local users, however none of that will get synced to the remote communities / instance that defederated).
JCharante 3y ago
Isn't there an issue with reddit banning certain communities? With the fediverse you can choose to be on an instance that doesn't block others or be on an instance that does block. For example, the instance I'm on defederates from 4 instances while beehaw defederates from 100+
- networkchad 3y ago
  Is there a visual / graph that shows these relationships and blockings? Would make navigating whom is censoring what much more easier.
- deelowe 3y ago
  Why would I care what reddit does? I'm trying to understand how Lemmy works.
onlyrealcuzzo 3y ago
Problem easily solved: start your own instance, or find one that doesn't block other instances...
- wccrawford 3y ago
  Can your own instance be behind a firewall, or does it need to be available from the web in general?
- deelowe 3y ago
  No. That's silly.

alecco 3y ago

Seems lemmy community has some issues. https://www.jayeless.net/2023/06/on-reddit-and-alternatives.html https://www.jayeless.net/2023/06/on-reddit-and-alternatives....

BizarroLand 3y ago
Those issues (per the article) being that it's not a perfected platform yet and that it's slightly different than reddit.
- monsieurbanana 3y ago
  How do you go from this: > There’s just no way I could feel comfortable in a community that supports the right-wing nationalist Putin’s war on Ukraine, or outright denies the harsh repression meted out against Muslims in China. Which makes up 50% of the article, to "it's slightly different than reddit"?
  - handoflixue 3y ago
    You could just join a different instance, like the article recommends. The bit you quoted is one paragraph out of 10, not "50% of the article". It's not like Reddit has never had ugly sub-reddits, especially earlier on when it was trying to be a bastion of free speech.
    - monsieurbanana 3y ago
      It's more like 3 paragraphs, but that's not really the point. It's one thing to have ugly subreddits / communities, it's another if the developers and the main instance is the ugly one. If one of the main issues of those federated networks is fragmentation, telling me to just ignore the main one doesn't bode particularly well.
foresto 3y ago
Rumors of "tankies" running lemmy.ml gave me pause at first, but since it's a federated network with established independent nodes, it seems to me that a single problematic one shouldn't condemn the whole Lemmy platform (let alone the whole Fediverse, of which it is a part). Alternative implementations would probably help as well. Kbin seems to be one. Given the sudden recent interest, perhaps we'll see more before long.

jayknight 3y ago

That's true as long as your instance does block or get blocked by the insurance you want to interact on.

deelowe 3y ago
This is too complicated. I don't have time to keep up with all that.

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