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I upvoted something this morning and got an immediate "Are you enjoying Reddit?" popup that was a gateway to leave a review, I am curious if that is related.

bbor 3y ago
Perhaps, tho basically every app does that now (should be against policies IMO). At worst they tweaked the frequency flag
- Firmwarrior 3y ago
  I thought this was disallowed nowadays, but I've been seeing it a lot from a lot of random different apps.. For a while, you'd get these "Enjoying app?" popups where yes -> "Post a review!" and no -> "Wad up your feedback and throw it in this trash can" They disappeared for like 5 years, but they've been back in force recently
  - bertil 3y ago
    There’s a large body of growth hacking specialists, working in agencies or who go from one company to another, who try anything. They get slapped on their finger a lot but pretty much never face the consequences of pushing the line. I suspect that some of them have tried that continuously for the last five years, repeatedly got their pop-up censored—until, one day, it went through because the person who cared about it left that position.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
  This and apps sending advertisements in push notifications are the two things that grind my gears about the iOS experience. The latter is already against the TOS as far as I’m aware but apparently never enforced since basically any food delivery app out there violates it.
  - bbor 3y ago
    The worst is Snapchat. I like Snapchat, I want to have it installed and with notifications turned on, but the advertising notifications were just beyond the pale. Clickbait text leading to content I have 0 relation to or interest in, sent super frequently
    - pokerface_86 3y ago
      [dead]
  - ceejayoz 3y ago
    Marketing push notifications used to be entirely banned. They're permitted now, but they're supposed to be behind a specific opt-in. https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ > 4.5.4 Push Notifications must not be required for the app to function, and should not be used to send sensitive personal or confidential information. Push Notifications should not be used for promotions or direct marketing purposes unless customers have explicitly opted in to receive them via consent language displayed in your app’s UI, and you provide a method in your app for a user to opt out from receiving such messages. Abuse of these services may result in revocation of your privileges. It used to say: > 4.5.4 Push Notifications must not be required for the app to function, and should not be used for advertising, promotions, or direct marketing purposes or to send sensitive personal or confidential information. I suspect Uber's in too-big-to-fail territory here.
    - neodymiumphish 3y ago
      Or the use of "should not" instead of "must not" is giving them the leeway they're using.
    - JCharante 3y ago
      Is it fruitless to try reporting a delivery app to apple? I used to get literally 10 marketing push notifications per day from an app so I disabled notifications and now wait for them to call me to get my order (paying COD)
- bertil 3y ago
  I’m astonished that Apple isn’t more proactive on those. Underwhelming apps not being downvoted and pushing people to use browser interactions will kill their ecosystem more surely than fraud. Then again, the fiasco of trying to find the ChatGPT OpenAI app doesn’t sound like they care enough about that platform.
  - bbor 3y ago
    That one boggles the mind… how long would it take to clean up the imposter apps - a few hours? I guess leaving them up might be a 4D chess tactic against Microsoft
  - no_wizard 3y ago
    The one reality Apple must face is that if they were hostile enough to large companies in curtailing their bad behavior there would be more incentive for them to make noise about issues with the App store, either via the legal system, legislation, or supporting alternative platforms in earnest. There's alot of people who, for instance, if Meta, Microsoft, Netflix, and Google all supported a different platform, they could migrate with little effort. Right now you're usually missing some or all of them which is why alt operating systems often have support for Android apps (APK compat) so users can have a lower switching cost. iMessage is only so good in terms of lock in
- tyfon 3y ago
  When I get those I open open the store and rate them the lowest possible with the comment "begging for stars". You have to do it in the app/play store directly as they usually highjack non 5-star ratings in-app.
mrtksn 3y ago
Probably that’s it. So apple heavily rate limits this pop up(IIRC, an app can ask for a review 3 times in 365 days), it’s possible that they are spending their allowance to counter for the negative reviews that they are likely receiving right now. The developer can't know if a dialog is displayed, so it's a standard practice to time these strategically but if you like you can spend it in a row.
princevegeta89 3y ago
I don't know why Android and iOS allow apps to nag people to rate them. Even worse is, they have also shipped SDKs to allow to directly rate the app without leaving it at all. One recent pattern I've also noticed is apps asking you to "enable" notifications after you've blocked them.
qjx 3y ago
the problem is probably that you're not using old.reddit.com. reddit is unusable in its redesign form

bbor 3y ago

Perhaps, tho basically every app does that now (should be against policies IMO). At worst they tweaked the frequency flag

Firmwarrior 3y ago
I thought this was disallowed nowadays, but I've been seeing it a lot from a lot of random different apps.. For a while, you'd get these "Enjoying app?" popups where yes -> "Post a review!" and no -> "Wad up your feedback and throw it in this trash can" They disappeared for like 5 years, but they've been back in force recently
- bertil 3y ago
  There’s a large body of growth hacking specialists, working in agencies or who go from one company to another, who try anything. They get slapped on their finger a lot but pretty much never face the consequences of pushing the line. I suspect that some of them have tried that continuously for the last five years, repeatedly got their pop-up censored—until, one day, it went through because the person who cared about it left that position.
SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
This and apps sending advertisements in push notifications are the two things that grind my gears about the iOS experience. The latter is already against the TOS as far as I’m aware but apparently never enforced since basically any food delivery app out there violates it.
- bbor 3y ago
  The worst is Snapchat. I like Snapchat, I want to have it installed and with notifications turned on, but the advertising notifications were just beyond the pale. Clickbait text leading to content I have 0 relation to or interest in, sent super frequently
  - pokerface_86 3y ago
    [dead]
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  Marketing push notifications used to be entirely banned. They're permitted now, but they're supposed to be behind a specific opt-in. https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ > 4.5.4 Push Notifications must not be required for the app to function, and should not be used to send sensitive personal or confidential information. Push Notifications should not be used for promotions or direct marketing purposes unless customers have explicitly opted in to receive them via consent language displayed in your app’s UI, and you provide a method in your app for a user to opt out from receiving such messages. Abuse of these services may result in revocation of your privileges. It used to say: > 4.5.4 Push Notifications must not be required for the app to function, and should not be used for advertising, promotions, or direct marketing purposes or to send sensitive personal or confidential information. I suspect Uber's in too-big-to-fail territory here.
  - neodymiumphish 3y ago
    Or the use of "should not" instead of "must not" is giving them the leeway they're using.
  - JCharante 3y ago
    Is it fruitless to try reporting a delivery app to apple? I used to get literally 10 marketing push notifications per day from an app so I disabled notifications and now wait for them to call me to get my order (paying COD)
bertil 3y ago
I’m astonished that Apple isn’t more proactive on those. Underwhelming apps not being downvoted and pushing people to use browser interactions will kill their ecosystem more surely than fraud. Then again, the fiasco of trying to find the ChatGPT OpenAI app doesn’t sound like they care enough about that platform.
- bbor 3y ago
  That one boggles the mind… how long would it take to clean up the imposter apps - a few hours? I guess leaving them up might be a 4D chess tactic against Microsoft
- no_wizard 3y ago
  The one reality Apple must face is that if they were hostile enough to large companies in curtailing their bad behavior there would be more incentive for them to make noise about issues with the App store, either via the legal system, legislation, or supporting alternative platforms in earnest. There's alot of people who, for instance, if Meta, Microsoft, Netflix, and Google all supported a different platform, they could migrate with little effort. Right now you're usually missing some or all of them which is why alt operating systems often have support for Android apps (APK compat) so users can have a lower switching cost. iMessage is only so good in terms of lock in
tyfon 3y ago
When I get those I open open the store and rate them the lowest possible with the comment "begging for stars". You have to do it in the app/play store directly as they usually highjack non 5-star ratings in-app.

mrtksn 3y ago

Probably that’s it. So apple heavily rate limits this pop up(IIRC, an app can ask for a review 3 times in 365 days), it’s possible that they are spending their allowance to counter for the negative reviews that they are likely receiving right now. The developer can't know if a dialog is displayed, so it's a standard practice to time these strategically but if you like you can spend it in a row.

princevegeta89 3y ago

I don't know why Android and iOS allow apps to nag people to rate them. Even worse is, they have also shipped SDKs to allow to directly rate the app without leaving it at all. One recent pattern I've also noticed is apps asking you to "enable" notifications after you've blocked them.

qjx 3y ago

the problem is probably that you're not using old.reddit.com. reddit is unusable in its redesign form