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I have been wondering lately if this is the fate of all content that can be created or expressed digitally. Music, art, movies, books, software could all be cre

I have been wondering lately if this is the fate of all content that can be created or expressed digitally. Music, art, movies, books, software could all be created by AI. The only thing “safe” are tangible goods. I also wonder if this will lead to a dumbing down of certain fields. Why write a book of it never gets published (apart from the enjoyment of it) which leads to fewer writers and a dying art form. It’s a bleak outlook and likely wrong, but just thinking.

SirMaster 3y ago
I don't know about you, but I don't have interest in listening to AI generated music, or exclusively AI generated music. I want to go listen to a real live person perform. Same for all the other performing arts for that matter. I think we are really far away from robots controlled by AI performing a live Broadway musical for example. Heck we are far away from robots singing with the human emotion of a talented singer as far as I have seen.
- Eridrus 3y ago
  Broadway musicals were disrupted a long time ago, what is left is crumbs for people who have a niche interest; these jobs will not be replaced by AI because it is already an anachronism that has been replaced by other entertainment for the mainstream. I do think purely AI art isn't really close to disrupting anything since what is being produced without human editing/selection is generally pretty mediocre, as the copy writer in the article mentioned, and we are quite sensitive to the quality of the entertainment we consume, unlike marketing copy.
- soItGoesAgain 3y ago
  I think the big problem is what this is going to do to human creativity. Even if Human Artists still perform the Music, the AI can quickly and easily write music lyrics and create artwork from the suggestions you give it, and its already quite decent. So what are the people that enjoyed doing that themselves going to do, when Bing can do in minutes what they would have spent a week or two doing. Are humans just going to be project managers, that guide the AI that creates everything (no offence to project managers intended.) The big risk is that doing anything creative ourselves will just seem so completely pointless, that all the work done will be AI assisted, because it will be so easy.
  - SirMaster 3y ago
    I never understood this point of view. Computers are way better than humans at lots of things, but that doesn't stop humans from spending lots of time on many of those things they enjoy even though a computer can do it better. Like playing chess just for one example. I do creative stuff because I enjoy doing it. I couldn't care less that a computer is better than me at it. Lots of people are better than me at it and have always been. Just as that doesn't stop my own enjoyment of doing it myself, neither would a computer being better than me stop my own enjoyment of it.
- pipeline_peak 3y ago
  > I don't have interest in listening to AI generated music The point is, you won’t know
  - SirMaster 3y ago
    How would I not know? I go to venues to listen to live music so I see the human performer performing. I vastly prefer live performances to recordings.
belter 3y ago
AI is just a polished Dali, a nicer played Beatles song, a more grammatically correct text on the style of Victor Hugo or Balzac. But its a variation and a copy. What we call AI creations are variations of styles. Humans what something new, a new style of Playing Guitar, a new way of telling a Movie story, a unique mode of writing a Romance. You won't get that from the current AI technology. I predict a stronger enforcement of copyrights laws, a stronger enforcement of the use of what is the essence of an artist, a drawing style, a playing mode, a demeanor of an actor. So as to avoid AI copies these personas and makes millions of digital copies of Agent Smiths. It will have to be tested in court but it will be made precedent quite quickly I believe. Or at least the creators will want financial compensation. You will also see stronger gates around knowledge. Enforcement of personal licensed DRM, with AI entities explicitly forbidden from accessing that content...Open Source Code with updated licenses, that forbids it's use for AI training.

SirMaster 3y ago

I don't know about you, but I don't have interest in listening to AI generated music, or exclusively AI generated music. I want to go listen to a real live person perform. Same for all the other performing arts for that matter. I think we are really far away from robots controlled by AI performing a live Broadway musical for example. Heck we are far away from robots singing with the human emotion of a talented singer as far as I have seen.

Eridrus 3y ago
Broadway musicals were disrupted a long time ago, what is left is crumbs for people who have a niche interest; these jobs will not be replaced by AI because it is already an anachronism that has been replaced by other entertainment for the mainstream. I do think purely AI art isn't really close to disrupting anything since what is being produced without human editing/selection is generally pretty mediocre, as the copy writer in the article mentioned, and we are quite sensitive to the quality of the entertainment we consume, unlike marketing copy.
soItGoesAgain 3y ago
I think the big problem is what this is going to do to human creativity. Even if Human Artists still perform the Music, the AI can quickly and easily write music lyrics and create artwork from the suggestions you give it, and its already quite decent. So what are the people that enjoyed doing that themselves going to do, when Bing can do in minutes what they would have spent a week or two doing. Are humans just going to be project managers, that guide the AI that creates everything (no offence to project managers intended.) The big risk is that doing anything creative ourselves will just seem so completely pointless, that all the work done will be AI assisted, because it will be so easy.
- SirMaster 3y ago
  I never understood this point of view. Computers are way better than humans at lots of things, but that doesn't stop humans from spending lots of time on many of those things they enjoy even though a computer can do it better. Like playing chess just for one example. I do creative stuff because I enjoy doing it. I couldn't care less that a computer is better than me at it. Lots of people are better than me at it and have always been. Just as that doesn't stop my own enjoyment of doing it myself, neither would a computer being better than me stop my own enjoyment of it.
pipeline_peak 3y ago
> I don't have interest in listening to AI generated music The point is, you won’t know
- SirMaster 3y ago
  How would I not know? I go to venues to listen to live music so I see the human performer performing. I vastly prefer live performances to recordings.

belter 3y ago

AI is just a polished Dali, a nicer played Beatles song, a more grammatically correct text on the style of Victor Hugo or Balzac. But its a variation and a copy. What we call AI creations are variations of styles. Humans what something new, a new style of Playing Guitar, a new way of telling a Movie story, a unique mode of writing a Romance. You won't get that from the current AI technology. I predict a stronger enforcement of copyrights laws, a stronger enforcement of the use of what is the essence of an artist, a drawing style, a playing mode, a demeanor of an actor. So as to avoid AI copies these personas and makes millions of digital copies of Agent Smiths. It will have to be tested in court but it will be made precedent quite quickly I believe. Or at least the creators will want financial compensation. You will also see stronger gates around knowledge. Enforcement of personal licensed DRM, with AI entities explicitly forbidden from accessing that content...Open Source Code with updated licenses, that forbids it's use for AI training.