Absolutely agreed, and if they have to think particularly hard about things outside their application space for a CRUD web app then either you’re in an extraord

Absolutely agreed, and if they have to think particularly hard about things outside their application space for a CRUD web app then either you’re in an extraordinarily high throughput environment, or the platform engineering needs a bit more work to abstract things away. That’s the ideal outcome here, developers can develop, and when they’re done they hit the Deploy button and off it goes. Where this falls down is when development teams are building complex systems and then expecting the ops team to divine how that’s meant to work in production.