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A general question about the benefits of teaching coding: For at least the past ten years, there's been a big emphasis on teaching coding to as many people as

by SamBam 3y ago

A general question about the benefits of teaching coding: For at least the past ten years, there's been a big emphasis on teaching coding to as many people as possible. I think a big part of that was the general assumption that, for many people, being able to code would be a ticket to a solid middle-class life, at minimum. With the rise of LLMs, do we still think that assumption is viable? What are going to be the number of software engineering jobs in 10 or 20 years? I worry that there will be half as many.

screwturner68 3y ago
Coding is the solution to all problems; can't get a job, learn to code. Not making enough money working a cash register, become a web developer. Nobody wants to hire you with your comparative religions degree, don't worry just learn COBOL. It reminds me of 1998 when the road to riches was paved with an MCSE and every time you got into a cab you'd see MCSE study guides sitting on the front seat. This is not the career for everyone, it's not easy and it takes constant tooling and retooling to remain relevant -this isn't the case in a lot of occupations and people looking for easy money are in for a rude awakening. I've been through the Dot.Bomb and the Bush I & II recessions and I've seen thousands get laid off (The first day at my current job they laid off 15,000 people and over the 20 years they've laid off another 200,000). Some of the purging is good, companies hire just to hire and end up with a lot of crap employees the unfortunate fallout is good employees get fired too. I don't know where the industry is going, it's certainly not the industry I started in, I've been expecting our downfall for years and we just keep moving along. We shall see.
- Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
  > I've been expecting our downfall for years and we just keep moving along. Yeah, with the massive layoffs over the last year, I expected salaries to cool off a bit. Then I got laid off in January, and it took me about 6 weeks to find a new job, and I ended up getting a slight pay bump with my new position. Though FWIW, I work in Application Security, which still has considerable demand.

by SamBam 3y ago

screwturner68 3y ago

Coding is the solution to all problems; can't get a job, learn to code. Not making enough money working a cash register, become a web developer. Nobody wants to hire you with your comparative religions degree, don't worry just learn COBOL. It reminds me of 1998 when the road to riches was paved with an MCSE and every time you got into a cab you'd see MCSE study guides sitting on the front seat. This is not the career for everyone, it's not easy and it takes constant tooling and retooling to remain relevant -this isn't the case in a lot of occupations and people looking for easy money are in for a rude awakening. I've been through the Dot.Bomb and the Bush I & II recessions and I've seen thousands get laid off (The first day at my current job they laid off 15,000 people and over the 20 years they've laid off another 200,000). Some of the purging is good, companies hire just to hire and end up with a lot of crap employees the unfortunate fallout is good employees get fired too. I don't know where the industry is going, it's certainly not the industry I started in, I've been expecting our downfall for years and we just keep moving along. We shall see.

Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
> I've been expecting our downfall for years and we just keep moving along. Yeah, with the massive layoffs over the last year, I expected salaries to cool off a bit. Then I got laid off in January, and it took me about 6 weeks to find a new job, and I ended up getting a slight pay bump with my new position. Though FWIW, I work in Application Security, which still has considerable demand.