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Can't say too much about it. Didn't really follow the whole Covid discussion and just continued my lifestyle. Eating healthy (fresh self-made food), doing sport

by r0l1 3y ago

Can't say too much about it. Didn't really follow the whole Covid discussion and just continued my lifestyle. Eating healthy (fresh self-made food), doing sports and looking after a good mental state. Family and my circle did the same. Friends who have been vaccinated got Covid several times. But are also good now... My grandmom (89 years), also unvaccinated, didn't get Covid. Her sister got it (vaccinated). Both healthy now... Just let everybody do their own thing... The whole hate in the communities was unnecessary.

op00to 3y ago
Did you get a test to see if you actually avoided Covid?
- r0l1 3y ago
  We did normal Covid tests for work. Maybe I should do an antibody test. Would be interesting...
  - mistrial9 3y ago
    antibodies are only measurable for a short time; long-term ability to defend is "learned" by the immune system but not measurable in any ordinary way; here in California coastal area there is a lot of social pressure about vaccination. Random people still insist that vaccination is important for healthy adults and sometimes under-18.
  - op00to 3y ago
    I was very interested at the results of my spouse's antibody test! It was negative, and we thought for sure she had antibodies from infection. I have no scientific evidence, but she has genetic abnormalities in certain blood proteins, and I wonder if that assists with her resisting the infection!
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    Unless you've been infected within the last 6 months or so at this point an antibody test is probably useless.
eru 3y ago
To be fair, Covid was never all that dangerous (in a statistical sense) for relatively young, relatively healthy people. Of course, in the beginning that wasn't clear. And you might still want to get vaccinated, to decrease the likelihood of you passing the virus to your older relatives.
- r0l1 3y ago
  See my other comment. My circle consists of people up to 89 years. Thanks for the hint, but I am not convinced of the vaccine. I'll continue doing my stuff and it's my own responsibility.
  - eru 3y ago
    Do what you need to, I'm not your parent. (And likely I don't even live on the same continent as you.) Do keep in mind that having been lucky so far doesn't necessarily prove that playing with fire is safe.
anonymouskimmer 3y ago
Attitudes like yours are why it kept spreading instead of petering out. I'm not saying that people need to get vaccinated, but I'm god damn sick of people not caring about spreading disease, whether vaccinated, or not. Humanity, as a whole, is in a war with disease. We don't need collaborators. All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00319-9 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00319-9 > Healthy, young people who were intentionally exposed to the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 developed mild symptoms — if any — in a first-of-its-kind COVID-19 human-challenge study. That doesn't mean they weren't contagious. > The first participants received a very low dose — roughly equivalent to the amount of virus in a single droplet of nasal fluid — of a virus strain that circulated in the United Kingdom in early 2020. Researchers anticipated that a higher dose would be needed to infect a majority of participants, says Andrew Catchpole, chief scientific officer of hVIVO. But the starting dose successfully infected more than half of the participants. > The virus replicated incredibly rapidly in those who became infected. On average, people developed their first symptoms and tested positive, using sensitive PCR tests, less than two days after exposure, on average. That contrasts with the roughly five-day ‘incubation period’ that real-world epidemiological studies have documented between a probable exposure and symptoms. High viral levels persisted for an average of 9 days, and up to 12 days.
- r0l1 3y ago
  Sorry, but I have a complete different position on this topic. However I respect your opinion.
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    My opinion doesn't lead to harm to other people, so you'll understand why I don't respect yours. Your right to swing your infected spittle ends where other people's mouths and noses begin.
    - dxhdr 3y ago
      > My opinion doesn't lead to harm to other people, so you'll understand why I don't respect yours. Your right to swing your infected spittle ends where other people's mouths and noses begin. Don't you have the ability to stay home and avoid breathing near other humans if you're so concerned? I'm confused by that statement. How is demanding reduced freedom for him more just than simply exercising your own?

by r0l1 3y ago

op00to 3y ago

Did you get a test to see if you actually avoided Covid?

r0l1 3y ago
We did normal Covid tests for work. Maybe I should do an antibody test. Would be interesting...
- mistrial9 3y ago
  antibodies are only measurable for a short time; long-term ability to defend is "learned" by the immune system but not measurable in any ordinary way; here in California coastal area there is a lot of social pressure about vaccination. Random people still insist that vaccination is important for healthy adults and sometimes under-18.
- op00to 3y ago
  I was very interested at the results of my spouse's antibody test! It was negative, and we thought for sure she had antibodies from infection. I have no scientific evidence, but she has genetic abnormalities in certain blood proteins, and I wonder if that assists with her resisting the infection!
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  Unless you've been infected within the last 6 months or so at this point an antibody test is probably useless.

eru 3y ago

To be fair, Covid was never all that dangerous (in a statistical sense) for relatively young, relatively healthy people. Of course, in the beginning that wasn't clear. And you might still want to get vaccinated, to decrease the likelihood of you passing the virus to your older relatives.

r0l1 3y ago
See my other comment. My circle consists of people up to 89 years. Thanks for the hint, but I am not convinced of the vaccine. I'll continue doing my stuff and it's my own responsibility.
- eru 3y ago
  Do what you need to, I'm not your parent. (And likely I don't even live on the same continent as you.) Do keep in mind that having been lucky so far doesn't necessarily prove that playing with fire is safe.

anonymouskimmer 3y ago

Attitudes like yours are why it kept spreading instead of petering out. I'm not saying that people need to get vaccinated, but I'm god damn sick of people not caring about spreading disease, whether vaccinated, or not. Humanity, as a whole, is in a war with disease. We don't need collaborators. All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00319-9 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00319-9 > Healthy, young people who were intentionally exposed to the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 developed mild symptoms — if any — in a first-of-its-kind COVID-19 human-challenge study. That doesn't mean they weren't contagious. > The first participants received a very low dose — roughly equivalent to the amount of virus in a single droplet of nasal fluid — of a virus strain that circulated in the United Kingdom in early 2020. Researchers anticipated that a higher dose would be needed to infect a majority of participants, says Andrew Catchpole, chief scientific officer of hVIVO. But the starting dose successfully infected more than half of the participants. > The virus replicated incredibly rapidly in those who became infected. On average, people developed their first symptoms and tested positive, using sensitive PCR tests, less than two days after exposure, on average. That contrasts with the roughly five-day ‘incubation period’ that real-world epidemiological studies have documented between a probable exposure and symptoms. High viral levels persisted for an average of 9 days, and up to 12 days.

r0l1 3y ago
Sorry, but I have a complete different position on this topic. However I respect your opinion.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  My opinion doesn't lead to harm to other people, so you'll understand why I don't respect yours. Your right to swing your infected spittle ends where other people's mouths and noses begin.
  - dxhdr 3y ago
    > My opinion doesn't lead to harm to other people, so you'll understand why I don't respect yours. Your right to swing your infected spittle ends where other people's mouths and noses begin. Don't you have the ability to stay home and avoid breathing near other humans if you're so concerned? I'm confused by that statement. How is demanding reduced freedom for him more just than simply exercising your own?