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Lingua Latina per se illustrata (2012)

19 points by engeljohnb 3y ago

dblack12705 3y ago
I love this book! It’s really quite excellent for teaching Latin.
- monnok 3y ago
  I love the book on so many levels. My copy is swollen and waterlogged, and held together with packing tape. I love it for all the Latin I relearned, but I love it even more for everything it indirectly teaches about teaching. I’ve always treasured polished and well edited textbooks, but this thing makes the best textbooks feel like the work of amateurs. I always think of Neal Stephenson’s Young Lady’s Illustrated Primer when I’m reading it. It’s like parts of your brain being unzippered to discover understanding your didn’t know you already had. I think of Lingua Latina in a surprising number of conversations… it reminds me to be considerate of how much new information can be absorbed, but also to fully trust my audience with that new information. I don’t need to belabor the presentation of ideas. I simply need to share my ideas in the context they matter, as if my audience already understood completely.
2-718-281-828 3y ago
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- brickteacup 3y ago
  god I wish HN had downvotes
  - Jtsummers 3y ago
    It does. Get to 501 karma and you can downvote. https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented
  - debugnik 3y ago
    I've read it does, but starting about 500 karma, so I'll never know firsthand.
com 3y ago
Maybe interesting for those who want to teach or learn a language is languagetransfer.org and the “Thinking Method Guidebook” at https://www.languagetransfer.org/s/TMG-1ST-EDITION-FINAL-Google-Docs.pdf https://www.languagetransfer.org/s/TMG-1ST-EDITION-FINAL-Goo... - an interesting approach to a guided “induction” process where soaring explanations are made throughout the material.
brickteacup 3y ago
great series, probably the best way to learn Latin. there's also some nature method courses for French, Italian, English, and German that you can find online if you google hard enough (search for "X by the nature method")
- Jtsummers 3y ago
  The Internet Archive has scans of some of these here: https://archive.org/search?query=subject%3A%22Methodus+Naturalis%22 https://archive.org/search?query=subject%3A%22Methodus+Natur...
colpabar 3y ago
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akprasad 3y ago
It's an excellent book that I love dearly, and I think the HN crowd in particular would take to it like catnip. That said, it's not right for everyone [1]. In particular, the high vocabulary load means that most readers can't simply read straight through it, and the focus on one grammatical concept at a time can feel artificial ("oh, this is the pluperfect chapter"). I also found that there were a few words that I couldn't grasp from context alone and had to search for online, which is fine but dims the magic a bit. https://magisterp.com/2016/10/06/lingua-latina-love-the-textbook-but-is-it-right-for-my-students/ https://magisterp.com/2016/10/06/lingua-latina-love-the-text...
CoBE10 3y ago
There is a Dowling method for learning Latin: https://web.archive.org/web/20221208220810/https://wcdrutgers.net/Latin.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20221208220810/https://wcdrutger...

19 points by engeljohnb 3y ago

dblack12705 3y ago

I love this book! It’s really quite excellent for teaching Latin.

monnok 3y ago
I love the book on so many levels. My copy is swollen and waterlogged, and held together with packing tape. I love it for all the Latin I relearned, but I love it even more for everything it indirectly teaches about teaching. I’ve always treasured polished and well edited textbooks, but this thing makes the best textbooks feel like the work of amateurs. I always think of Neal Stephenson’s Young Lady’s Illustrated Primer when I’m reading it. It’s like parts of your brain being unzippered to discover understanding your didn’t know you already had. I think of Lingua Latina in a surprising number of conversations… it reminds me to be considerate of how much new information can be absorbed, but also to fully trust my audience with that new information. I don’t need to belabor the presentation of ideas. I simply need to share my ideas in the context they matter, as if my audience already understood completely.

2-718-281-828 3y ago

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brickteacup 3y ago
god I wish HN had downvotes
- Jtsummers 3y ago
  It does. Get to 501 karma and you can downvote. https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented
- debugnik 3y ago
  I've read it does, but starting about 500 karma, so I'll never know firsthand.

com 3y ago

Maybe interesting for those who want to teach or learn a language is languagetransfer.org and the “Thinking Method Guidebook” at https://www.languagetransfer.org/s/TMG-1ST-EDITION-FINAL-Google-Docs.pdf https://www.languagetransfer.org/s/TMG-1ST-EDITION-FINAL-Goo... - an interesting approach to a guided “induction” process where soaring explanations are made throughout the material.

brickteacup 3y ago

great series, probably the best way to learn Latin. there's also some nature method courses for French, Italian, English, and German that you can find online if you google hard enough (search for "X by the nature method")

Jtsummers 3y ago
The Internet Archive has scans of some of these here: https://archive.org/search?query=subject%3A%22Methodus+Naturalis%22 https://archive.org/search?query=subject%3A%22Methodus+Natur...

colpabar 3y ago

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akprasad 3y ago

It's an excellent book that I love dearly, and I think the HN crowd in particular would take to it like catnip. That said, it's not right for everyone [1]. In particular, the high vocabulary load means that most readers can't simply read straight through it, and the focus on one grammatical concept at a time can feel artificial ("oh, this is the pluperfect chapter"). I also found that there were a few words that I couldn't grasp from context alone and had to search for online, which is fine but dims the magic a bit. https://magisterp.com/2016/10/06/lingua-latina-love-the-textbook-but-is-it-right-for-my-students/ https://magisterp.com/2016/10/06/lingua-latina-love-the-text...

CoBE10 3y ago

There is a Dowling method for learning Latin: https://web.archive.org/web/20221208220810/https://wcdrutgers.net/Latin.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20221208220810/https://wcdrutger...