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Here's my thoughts for some different options that would've maybe ruffled some feathers but not to the same extent 1. Same thing, but with 80% lower API pricin

Here's my thoughts for some different options that would've maybe ruffled some feathers but not to the same extent 1. Same thing, but with 80% lower API pricing, keeping "NSFW" content, and 3 months notice 2. Start serving ads via the API and don't charge for API calls, revoke keys for apps that strip out ads 3. Limit API usage to premium accounts (beyond some nominal threshold of calls per day to let people play with the API)

rundll 3y ago
These all sounds great and if nothing else would be great starting points. And most importantly would be a basis for win/win solution. I’ve listened to the Apollo guy on a Vergecast interview and he went out of his way to compliment the Reddit CEO and never took any of the opportunities given to fuel the fire. Maybe this Canadian thing is real? =) Thinking out loud… or my latest random thought… Reddit Premium users can use 3rd party apps effectively unrestricted and with no ads. In turn, Reddit would pay the 3rd apps say 25 to 35% of the premium fees they collect to the 3rd party app. Non-premium users can use 3rd party apps but ads must be pushed through and NSFW related material is blocked.
- contrarian1234 3y ago
  Why gate NSFW content? You'd have to be nuts to use a credit card and your real identity to pay for that ... And then in effect consent to being tracked around their website with a key Your bank and all their friends will have a record of that till the end of time
  - hutzlibu 3y ago
    Some people don’t care, others think with their dick and ignore it, when they urgently want to access something - which is the reason MANY people pay for porn with credit cards. But I would think, the majority of reddit users would not. In theory you could offer anonymous payment, paysafe and co. but more and more governments implement age restriction for porn anyway. No one cares for small sites (yet), but reddit could be pressured to not accept anonymous payments as the are big.
rkangel 3y ago
Yeah, any of those 3 would be fine. Except that in all cases it needs 6 months notice to reduce the hit on app developers that have year long contracts with users.
- Arn_Thor 3y ago
  Ideally yes. But I got the impression the Apollo guy asked for an absolute minimum of three months’ notice
- dingaling 3y ago
  But the developers didn't make any contracts with Reddit, prior to making contracts with their customers. Which is egregious, since the developers had no way of guaranteeing that they could actually fulfil those contracts.

rundll 3y ago

These all sounds great and if nothing else would be great starting points. And most importantly would be a basis for win/win solution. I’ve listened to the Apollo guy on a Vergecast interview and he went out of his way to compliment the Reddit CEO and never took any of the opportunities given to fuel the fire. Maybe this Canadian thing is real? =) Thinking out loud… or my latest random thought… Reddit Premium users can use 3rd party apps effectively unrestricted and with no ads. In turn, Reddit would pay the 3rd apps say 25 to 35% of the premium fees they collect to the 3rd party app. Non-premium users can use 3rd party apps but ads must be pushed through and NSFW related material is blocked.

contrarian1234 3y ago
Why gate NSFW content? You'd have to be nuts to use a credit card and your real identity to pay for that ... And then in effect consent to being tracked around their website with a key Your bank and all their friends will have a record of that till the end of time
- hutzlibu 3y ago
  Some people don’t care, others think with their dick and ignore it, when they urgently want to access something - which is the reason MANY people pay for porn with credit cards. But I would think, the majority of reddit users would not. In theory you could offer anonymous payment, paysafe and co. but more and more governments implement age restriction for porn anyway. No one cares for small sites (yet), but reddit could be pressured to not accept anonymous payments as the are big.

rkangel 3y ago

Yeah, any of those 3 would be fine. Except that in all cases it needs 6 months notice to reduce the hit on app developers that have year long contracts with users.

Arn_Thor 3y ago
Ideally yes. But I got the impression the Apollo guy asked for an absolute minimum of three months’ notice
dingaling 3y ago
But the developers didn't make any contracts with Reddit, prior to making contracts with their customers. Which is egregious, since the developers had no way of guaranteeing that they could actually fulfil those contracts.