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>Now that we're in 2023, and pretty much everyone is either multiply-vaccinated ~or~ and has had COVID multiple times Isn't this the most common demographic?

• kramerger 3y ago
  Not in places were vaccine rollout was quick and frictionless with good coverage, thus reducing probability of transmission of the main strain and early mutations. I think a lot of people in Northern Europe have either never had covid or had a mild possibly unnoticeable infection
  • mensetmanusman 3y ago
    No, the r0 is too high. Essentially everyone eventually gets Covid, vaccination or not, it's just that it's not worth testing continuously to see if your zero-symptom-life is currently infected.
    • Izkata 3y ago
      > to see if your zero-symptom-life is currently infected No symptoms = not having COVID-19, GP was using the term correctly. Conflating SARS-CoV-2 with COVID-19 is a big annoyance I have with the general usage of "covid".
      • taeric 3y ago
        What? Googling "asymptomatic covid" seems to disagree with this assertion? Even the wikipedia page for it claims: "At least a third of the people who are infected with the virus do not develop noticeable symptoms at any point in time." Has terminology moved on?
        • sudosysgen 3y ago
          The disease and the virus are two different things in standard medical parlance.
          • taeric 3y ago
            I'm not sure I follow, honestly. If you are trying to hold colloquial use to a technical measure, good luck. Even https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_naming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_naming has "While COVID-19 refers to the disease and SARS-CoV-2 refers to the virus which causes it, referring to the "COVID-19 virus" has been accepted." Meaning, that ship sailed. More, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19, clearly talks about people having the disease but not being symptomatic. Such that you may be building a false divide? Yes, the virus is different from the disease. That does not imply that you only have the disease if you have symptoms.
            • prottog 3y ago
              > That does not imply that you only have the disease if you have symptoms. Not the GP, but I've heard their perspective before from others, i.e. in medicine the symptom is the disease (or that the disease is defined by the symptom). If you have some virus in you that never does anything, you don't have a disease.
              • taeric 3y ago
                Same. I'm not clear on if that is all diseases or not. I'm also still unsure it matters for this discussion. Especially if we don't have a causal understanding of what moves you from not having symptoms to having symptoms.
            • Fomite 3y ago
              At least in infectious disease epidemiology as a field, "Asymptomatic COVID-19" is a perfectly accepted term. SARS-CoV-2 "referring to the virus" is for things like "SARS-CoV-2 has a number of receptor binding sites..." If you're talking about what a person has, even if it's mild or largely symptom free, we use COVID-19.
        • FooBarWidget 3y ago
          "Asymptomatic covid" is defined differently in different countries. They do not always mean "no symptoms".
  • Slava_Propanei 3y ago
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