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The statement (in the title anyway) is fundamentally, blatantly false though. Humanity will survive with climate change, and if you take into account the haber-

The statement (in the title anyway) is fundamentally, blatantly false though. Humanity will survive with climate change, and if you take into account the haber-bosch process, half of humanity only exists due to fossil fuels. We might have a hard time with them from climate change, but we will have a hard time without them too. We will survive either way. This is what makes people sick of the constant climate talk and skeptical. So many of the claims are exaggerated and sensationalized, not just by media but also by officials. If you want to win people over with facts and science you have to make sure your loudest voices and most powerful proponents don't say outright lies.

ftxbro 3y ago
If you read the context, that UN chief got trolled and lost his cool. An oil executive is planned to chair this year’s international climate talks in Dubai, and this executive suggested that fossil fuel firms can keep up production if they find a way to capture carbon emissions. Which if you know anything about chemistry or physics doesn't make any sense. The only way it makes sense is if they are planning to do something sneaky later like only capture some of the emissions or just not comply or roll it back or redefine emissions to mean only particulate emissions or something like that. So when the UN guy was arguing against this obvious attempt at deception by this oil exec who is going to chair the climate talks, the UN guy said that fossil fuels themselves were the problem and when he was trying to emphasize that point he said they are incompatible with humanity. Probably that rhetoric gaffe made the day of the oil exec lol he is probably worth his salary to that oil company even if its millions of dollars he made the climate-supporting UN chief sound so dumb. And of course that's the quote that the AP picks as their headline lol.
- TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
  If you can play UN chief like a fiddle to tell you outright lies, then he should rather resign than be out there pushing more people to skepticism about climate.
  - ftxbro 3y ago
    I don't necessarily disagree. But maybe the AP headline should have been more like "UN chief loses composure in the face of absurd proposal by oil industry executive in high stakes energy and climate debate."

ftxbro 3y ago

If you read the context, that UN chief got trolled and lost his cool. An oil executive is planned to chair this year’s international climate talks in Dubai, and this executive suggested that fossil fuel firms can keep up production if they find a way to capture carbon emissions. Which if you know anything about chemistry or physics doesn't make any sense. The only way it makes sense is if they are planning to do something sneaky later like only capture some of the emissions or just not comply or roll it back or redefine emissions to mean only particulate emissions or something like that. So when the UN guy was arguing against this obvious attempt at deception by this oil exec who is going to chair the climate talks, the UN guy said that fossil fuels themselves were the problem and when he was trying to emphasize that point he said they are incompatible with humanity. Probably that rhetoric gaffe made the day of the oil exec lol he is probably worth his salary to that oil company even if its millions of dollars he made the climate-supporting UN chief sound so dumb. And of course that's the quote that the AP picks as their headline lol.

TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
If you can play UN chief like a fiddle to tell you outright lies, then he should rather resign than be out there pushing more people to skepticism about climate.
- ftxbro 3y ago
  I don't necessarily disagree. But maybe the AP headline should have been more like "UN chief loses composure in the face of absurd proposal by oil industry executive in high stakes energy and climate debate."